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re: Dexter 11/20 Discussion w/ spoilers
Posted on 11/21/11 at 9:51 am to VOR
Posted on 11/21/11 at 9:51 am to VOR
Remember in the Nebraska episode when Dexter killed the hotel clerk? What we saw at first was his brother pick up the pitchfork and stab him while Dexter watched. Then we saw that it was really Dexter who had the pitchfork in his hands. Same thing is happening with Travis and Gellar. Only we only see what Travis is seeing.
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Posted on 11/21/11 at 9:56 am to angryslugs
How long until Deb will catch wind that the clerk from the hotel Dexter stayed at has turned up missing? That and Dex always having somewhere else to be will surly lead to her suspecting something.
Posted on 11/21/11 at 10:18 am to TheFolker
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Didn't Deb say the injuries of the fruit stand guy, the jogger, and Travis's sister indicated that it was the same killer?
But didn't the chick that Travis released tell the cops there were two people? Does Travis do voice impressions of Geller also?
I'm still annoyed at how much they are ruining this season. Dexter just seems to have a deathwish - or at the very least a transparencywish. Basically, in addition to Lumen and Jonah, Travis knows about him. Additionally, he spilled his guts to the priest also. I know, I know, the priest has dementia. Still, very stupid to tell him.
The way he rushed right into the church (slamming his door?!?!? WTF), not wearing ski-mask, just totally unprepared heading into a situation where he DOES NOT have the high ground, is reckless beyond belief. So is going into Travis' place of business.
The writers have just mailed it in. They're laughing at us at this point.
Posted on 11/21/11 at 10:23 am to Tiger JJ
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Does Travis do voice impressions of Geller also?
Possibly.
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I'm still annoyed at how much they are ruining this season. Dexter just seems to have a deathwish - or at the very least a transparencywish. Basically, in addition to Lumen and Jonah, Travis knows about him. Additionally, he spilled his guts to the priest also. I know, I know, the priest has dementia. Still, very stupid to tell him.
The way he rushed right into the church (slamming his door?!?!? WTF), not wearing ski-mask, just totally unprepared heading into a situation where he DOES NOT have the high ground, is reckless beyond belief. So is going into Travis' place of business.
The writers have just mailed it in. They're laughing at us at this point.
I agree.
Posted on 11/21/11 at 11:02 am to NIH
Certainly we haven't seen the last of Jonah. After his appearance, I thought Jonah was going to be a big part of at least the next few episodes. Jonah saying, "Hello, Dexter Morgan" just like Trinity did was cool.
P.S. I knew that Dexter was going to get caught for going to Nebraska the minute he put that motel pen in his pocket.
P.S. I knew that Dexter was going to get caught for going to Nebraska the minute he put that motel pen in his pocket.
This post was edited on 11/21/11 at 11:04 am
Posted on 11/21/11 at 12:19 pm to MedDawg
Every new episode concludes more and more that Geller is not real. It almost seems to be comical how they are trying to do things to make us think he is real, when they can all be easily be written off as Travis is crazy.
Like other people keep saying... when Geller says something to someone else, or interacts with them.. he is not real. Plus anyone notice he never changes clothes.... kinda like Harry...?
Like other people keep saying... when Geller says something to someone else, or interacts with them.. he is not real. Plus anyone notice he never changes clothes.... kinda like Harry...?
Posted on 11/21/11 at 12:20 pm to Tiger JJ
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The way he rushed right into the church (slamming his door?!?!? WTF), not wearing ski-mask, just totally unprepared heading into a situation where he DOES NOT have the high ground, is reckless beyond belief. So is going into Travis' place of business.
Dexter's been doing reckless things and scrambling to get away with them all along.
Among many other things, he keeps the evidence that will convict him in an unsecured location that one of the several people in and out of his home will certainly discover when his window unit breaks down and he isn't there. He's continued to do this after his slide box was discovered once already. He's been into victim's places of business before, showing his face, and his victims have got the drop on him several times before, with some even getting away to be killed another day. So "reckless" ain't exactly anything new for Dexter. Then again, I believe you've said the best season, 2, is the worst. 
Posted on 11/21/11 at 12:28 pm to tims0912367
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So "reckless" ain't exactly anything new for Dexter.
Telling people he's a killer is new.
This season started out on a very low note with the superhero-like double injection of the paramedics. Again, it felt like the joke was on the audience.
Posted on 11/21/11 at 12:48 pm to Enigma
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when Geller says something to someone else, or interacts with them.. he is not real. Plus anyone notice he never changes clothes.... kinda like Harry
He doesnt interact with anyone else.
He does however change clothes. I specifically watched for that last night and he did
Posted on 11/21/11 at 12:57 pm to Tiger JJ
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Telling people he's a killer is new.
Uh, no. He told a DA he was a killer and killed with him.
That almost blew up in his face because the DA tricked him by giving him the fake bloody shirt to gain his trust, and Dexter had to desperately kill him once the relationship soured. Then he ended up strapped to the skinner's table anyway, which he not only broke his wrist to escape from, he eluded the police who busted in giving him the chance to escape. I didn't like the skinner storyline, but that scene on his table was great. The point it, Dexter's dark passenger makes him somewhat superhuman, and he's always been in and out of extreme, unbelievable situations. That doesn't bother me so much. I'm bothered more by so many serial killers with ridiculous, elaborate MOs, like Twinity and his twains, the ITK, and the Tony Robbins rape-n-kill club, which started with a half-dozen happy campers who gang-raped a girl and mostly grew into normal, professional adulthood (banker, dentist, and shite like that) over 15 years while rapin' and killin' all the while in their clubhouse, under the direction of the teenage fattie-turned-Tony Robbins. At least Travis is completely crazy, so I don't mind him so much, and I have a weakness for religious nuttery, so I'm liking this season, except for the episode with Brian, which is probably the worst episode they've ever done.
Posted on 11/21/11 at 1:05 pm to tims0912367
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He told a DA he was a killer and killed with him. That almost blew up in his face because the DA tricked him by giving him the fake bloody shirt to gain his trust, and Dexter had to desperately kill him once the relationship soured.
Granted, but that was at least in step with the plot arc that he had finally found a peer. It was certainly more understandable than just blabbing to the priest.
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I'm bothered more by so many serial killers with ridiculous, elaborate MOs, like Twinity and his twains, the ITK, and the Tony Robbins rape-n-kill club, which started with a half-dozen happy campers who gang-raped a girl and mostly grew into normal, professional adulthood (banker, dentist, and shite like that) over 15 years while rapin' and killin' all the while in their clubhouse, under the direction of the teenage fattie-turned-Tony Robbins.
Well put. Like I say: one thing is not in question at all...Miami is fricking LITTERED with hardcore serial killers. quote:
At least Travis is completely crazy, so I don't mind him so much, and I have a weakness for religious nuttery, so I'm liking this season, except for the episode with Brian, which is probably the worst episode they've ever done.
It would seem as if trusting crazy people to keep your business quiet is pretty stupid. And yes - "Nebraska" was by far the worst episode.
Posted on 11/21/11 at 1:34 pm to Tiger JJ
I thought being at the diner with Travis was very wreckless.
Posted on 11/21/11 at 1:35 pm to cajuntiger07
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I thought being at the diner with Travis was very wreckless.
Absurdly so.
Posted on 11/21/11 at 1:39 pm to Tiger JJ
I mean the police were already looking for him.
Posted on 11/21/11 at 1:52 pm to Tiger JJ
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Miami is fricking LITTERED with hardcore serial killers.
Well, I guess it is a nice place to settle down.
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It would seem as if trusting crazy people to keep your business quiet is pretty stupid.
The advantage of telling secrets to crazy people like Travis and severely demented people like the priest is that no one will ever believe them if they tell. Dexter doesn't know Travis is crazy, but based on what he does know, Travis can't rat him out. As a random person off the street, he wouldn't be believed, and accusing Dexter would only direct suspicion at him, which he can't afford. Look what he did to his sister after seeing Deb leave her house, and Mrs. Garret actually protected him. As the DDK suspect, he'd probably catch a beating for accusing Dexter.
So I don't see a problem with any of that, and it was interesting to see Dexter receive "absolution". I was just hoping for some sardonic internal dialogue to go with the indifferent curiosity he displayed.
I'll agree with one thing, the lack of stealth with shutting the car door was very un-Dexter.
Posted on 11/21/11 at 4:30 pm to tims0912367
I believe that the writers want us to THINK that Gellar is fake. They are making it obvious that it is a possibility. I think we will find out later(on maybe the last episode) that he is real.
If he is not real than it is something different that what Dexter has with his dad. This is more of a split personality where Geller controls his body some times and Travis controls it the other times.
If he is not real than it is something different that what Dexter has with his dad. This is more of a split personality where Geller controls his body some times and Travis controls it the other times.
Posted on 11/21/11 at 4:32 pm to ATXTiger1
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If he is not real than it is something different that what Dexter has with his dad.
Oh, this much is certain. But I think they did the whole Nebraska episode with the brother and the pitchfork to show that they are fully willing to take artistic license with physical things.
Posted on 11/21/11 at 5:21 pm to ATXTiger1
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I believe that the writers want us to THINK that Gellar is fake. They are making it obvious that it is a possibility. I think we will find out later(on maybe the last episode) that he is real.
I'll be disappointed if he's real, because I don't think they've left that possibility open.
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If he is not real than it is something different that what Dexter has with his dad. This is more of a split personality where Geller controls his body some times and Travis controls it the other times.
It reminds me a lot of "Red Dragon" toward the end, where the dragon has taken over and begun giving orders the host resists following. Travis even got laid, just like Francis, and what's left of their sanity had them both thinking maybe they can stop doing crazy shite and live a normal life.
Posted on 11/22/11 at 10:53 am to NIH
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She did, but the sister was missing the numbers on her.
this is what i don't understand. if the professor is fake, does that mean Hank JR.'s other personality actually killed his sister and that's why there is no number attached to her?
Posted on 11/22/11 at 12:48 pm to YumYum Sauce
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this is what i don't understand. if the professor is fake, does that mean Hank JR.'s other personality actually killed his sister and that's why there is no number attached to her?
That's what Dexter concluded, except he thinks the prof is real (and has no reason to think otherwise).
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