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Cat Vasko Will Write Warner Bros.’ Female-Centric Plastic Man Movie
Posted on 12/5/20 at 8:40 am
Posted on 12/5/20 at 8:40 am
Posted on 12/5/20 at 10:07 am to Proximo
How does that work? It's Plastic Man, not Plastic Woman. Will this movie be about arse implants, nose jobs, lip injections and vaginal rejuvenation?
Posted on 12/5/20 at 10:55 am to Proximo
1) This needs to go away.
2) If only DC had a vast library of amazing female characters already.
3) If they do this, praying that it's based on Kyle Baker's award winning Plastic Man run, where Plas' FBI girlfriend Special Agent Morgan and their daughter had a big part in the storyline (leaving Plas as a man).
2) If only DC had a vast library of amazing female characters already.
3) If they do this, praying that it's based on Kyle Baker's award winning Plastic Man run, where Plas' FBI girlfriend Special Agent Morgan and their daughter had a big part in the storyline (leaving Plas as a man).
Posted on 12/5/20 at 11:03 am to Saint Alfonzo
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It's Plastic Man, not Plastic Woman.
Since they can’t use Plastic Man as the title, I’m guessing it will be called “Box Office Poison”.
Posted on 12/5/20 at 12:06 pm to Proximo
These things feel almost like charity at this point. There's no way they're stupid enough to believe there's a huge demand for all-female superhero movies.
Posted on 12/5/20 at 12:39 pm to Proximo
There is no assault on the heterosexual white male.
Repeat , x infinity
Posted on 12/5/20 at 12:42 pm to tiggerthetooth
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There's no way they're stupid enough to believe there's a huge demand for all-female superhero movies.
There's no way they're stupid enough to believe there's a huge demand for a Plastic Man movie, in general. The Hollywood Reporter article doesn't clarify what "female-centric" will actually look like because they don't know. None of the other outlets with this story know either. We don't even know if this means a female lead. It probably does, but any outlet saying so has made a jump from the language reported in an effort to get clicks from people on boards like this one.
DC doesn't even give a shite about Plastic Man. He hasn't had his own series since a short-lived, unpopular (but acclaimed) title for kids back in 2004. Part of the joke with his name is that he's been changed/killed so many times that he's barely a character on his own (I think Mark Waid's favorite past time used to be killing and demeaning Plastic Man). This was an explicit joke in the comics in the late 2000s, villain when a seduced him into thinking he was a joke amongst his superhero peers. More writers in the past 30 years have used him as a catalyst for plot than actual hero that drives the plot or saves the day.
If there were ever a comic character you could play around with, without drawing any sincere, deserved anger from a fan base, it should be Plastic Man. That won't prevent people from pretending they care about him, of course.
Posted on 12/5/20 at 12:56 pm to Jay Are
Name a big budget movie that hasn't been "female centric" in the last 2 years. When End Game ended the original Marvel cast run... It was over for masculinity ever making another run.
Even the new Thor movie, whenever that is, I guarantee will have 4-5 female supporting characters who are all "smarter" than Thor and he will be portrayed as a total buffoon.
It's called clown world.
Even the new Thor movie, whenever that is, I guarantee will have 4-5 female supporting characters who are all "smarter" than Thor and he will be portrayed as a total buffoon.
It's called clown world.
Posted on 12/5/20 at 1:03 pm to Jack Ruby
Terminator - woke fate.
Nope
Harley Quinn
Nope
Woke Charlie’s Angels.
Nope
Star Wars franchise
Nope
Doctor Who
Nope
Star Trek franchise
Nope
Etc...
Nope
Harley Quinn
Nope
Woke Charlie’s Angels.
Nope
Star Wars franchise
Nope
Doctor Who
Nope
Star Trek franchise
Nope
Etc...
Posted on 12/5/20 at 2:48 pm to tiggerthetooth
The deal tends to be finding a hero of X group, having a good actor/actress as lead, and having an INTERESTING STORY TO TELL.
This works for Wonder Woman and Black Panther because they nailed casting and told a story that got people to watch that was far beyond a single dimensional “only women” or “only blacks” audience.
Then you have the opposite end, where Ghostbusters took a franchise that was all male and they turned it all female, made some shite casting decisions (Leslie Jones in particular), and went out of their way to piss off everyone who wasn’t their target audience.
Taking a movie about Plastic Man and making it female-centric is like the theoretical movie suggested by Paul Mooney, “The Last Nagger On Earth” with Tom Hanks as lead.
This works for Wonder Woman and Black Panther because they nailed casting and told a story that got people to watch that was far beyond a single dimensional “only women” or “only blacks” audience.
Then you have the opposite end, where Ghostbusters took a franchise that was all male and they turned it all female, made some shite casting decisions (Leslie Jones in particular), and went out of their way to piss off everyone who wasn’t their target audience.
Taking a movie about Plastic Man and making it female-centric is like the theoretical movie suggested by Paul Mooney, “The Last Nagger On Earth” with Tom Hanks as lead.
Posted on 12/5/20 at 3:00 pm to Jay Are
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If there were ever a comic character you could play around with, without drawing any sincere, deserved anger from a fan base, it should be Plastic Man. That won't prevent people from pretending they care about him, of course.
Maybe, maybe not.
However, there are a significant jokes that the humor is built around in Plastic Man that actually is male centric. That's a pretty big part to the character's style.
Regardless, taking a male character and turning him female should be a 100% no on any accounts at this point. Not to sky scream, but those are not the characters as they were written. And vice versa. We shouldn't take female characters and make them male either.
This was cool and unique to do, when it was cool and unique, and NOT politically motivated. When artists used to do this, it was more about "What if..." now, and you'll probably disagree, it's about making a statement. It isn't experimentation, it's political theater, and that's why it's a problem.
Think Starbuck in BSG. That was fine, few people complained, and it wasn't meant to be a statement, but rather to add new layers to BSG. And it worked. She had a great arc .
Posted on 12/5/20 at 3:03 pm to Freauxzen
If Katie Sackoff hadn’t totally owned that role and there were a more vocal group of BSG fans bitching about it, it could have been a problem.
But great casting and good writing covers up a lot of problems.
But great casting and good writing covers up a lot of problems.
Posted on 12/5/20 at 3:09 pm to teke184
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If Katie Sackoff hadn’t totally owned that role and there were a more vocal group of BSG fans bitching about it, it could have been a problem.
But great casting and good writing covers up a lot of problems.
Well, that's because it was intentional, and part of the story, not just for show. There was meaning behind the choice, rather than political point scoring.
Posted on 12/5/20 at 4:27 pm to tiggerthetooth
Ghostbusters was 2016, so I was aiming for the technicality.
But that's spot on, of course.
She did crush it, even if many thought initially the move was unnecessary. Problem is, many then just assumed that they too could randomly gender swap any character, and voila! Success!
Katie as Captain Marvel would have almost entirely wiped out the negativity in the MCU, I've no doubt about it.
But that's spot on, of course.
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If Katie Sackoff hadn’t totally owned that role and there were a more vocal group of BSG fans bitching about it, it could have been a problem.
She did crush it, even if many thought initially the move was unnecessary. Problem is, many then just assumed that they too could randomly gender swap any character, and voila! Success!
Katie as Captain Marvel would have almost entirely wiped out the negativity in the MCU, I've no doubt about it.
This post was edited on 12/5/20 at 4:36 pm
Posted on 12/5/20 at 5:16 pm to Jay Are
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There's no way they're stupid enough to believe there's a huge demand for a Plastic Man movie, in general.
Plastic Man is an awesome character, and a movie about him could have been fantastic.
ETA: Maybe they're doing this to avoid the Mr. Fantastic comparisons? That would at least make sense, but I doubt this will stop people from making those comparisons anyway.
This post was edited on 12/5/20 at 5:24 pm
Posted on 12/5/20 at 5:35 pm to imjustafatkid
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Plastic Man is an awesome character, and a movie about him could have been fantastic.
ETA: Maybe they're doing this to avoid the Mr. Fantastic comparisons? That would at least make sense, but I doubt this will stop people from making those comparisons anyway.
I had to look this up on Wiki. Plastic Man 1st appeared in 1941. That's old school. But for the life of me, I've never read any of the comics or heard much about him. I don't even know his origin story.
And yeah, I get that Mr Fantastic is a rip off of PM, which was real common with super heroes found on Marvel and D.C. ( Captain Marvel / Shazam among the key examples )
Even with out the gender swap, I think this is a...stretch ( sorry )
The super hero market is over saturated as it is. DC should quit while they're still not too far behind.
This post was edited on 12/5/20 at 5:38 pm
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