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re: Breaking Bad S5E15 9/22 "Granite State"
Posted on 9/25/13 at 2:19 pm to Ace Midnight
Posted on 9/25/13 at 2:19 pm to Ace Midnight
Hell, Todd may kill Lydia if she turns him down when he lays it all out.
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Posted on 9/25/13 at 2:19 pm to GeauxLSUGeaux
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You said it didn't have anything to do with nazi's
Ok, you clearly aren't reading what I write, so I'm done engaging you.
Posted on 9/25/13 at 2:20 pm to LNCHBOX
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Does any of this show happen if Walt stayed with Gray Matter?
So that obviously means that Walt's main intention is to go after them.
As much as you bitched and called people out for ASSUMING things in this, you sure have no problems running with your assumptions as if they are fact and then being a complete arse about it.
This post was edited on 9/25/13 at 2:23 pm
Posted on 9/25/13 at 2:21 pm to Chair
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But I think the writers inserted that blue meth comment for a reason in the interview.
And this is why I come down with the majority in all of this - Walt does everything based on revelation (Eureka moments), rage and to protect his ego. It is hard to find insignificant frames in the show, much less references like that.
How long did he carry Gale's book around? That's what set Hank on Walt's trail. How long have they held the Jane card back?
I cannot believe Walt is going back solely for GM and his money. But it is possible.
Posted on 9/25/13 at 2:22 pm to Ace Midnight
holy shite...who care guys
Posted on 9/25/13 at 2:23 pm to SEClint
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Hell, Todd may kill Lydia if she turns him down when he lays it all out.
Despite her outward appearances, Lydia is pretty ruthless herself. She was Mike's contact, she doesn't like loose ends, she has access to corporate resources, she set up Declan's end and the transfer to Jack, Todd and Co.
And she's already thinking ahead 3 and 4 moves. She may kill Todd, and keep Jesse.
Posted on 9/25/13 at 2:23 pm to LNCHBOX
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Because you and chair acted like it wasn't possible that could be the case, when quite clearly it is perfectly reasonable for it to be the case.
Chair, maybe, but I don't seek out people to say "Nah, you're wrong and stupid" unless you come at me first. I think it's interesting the numerous ways each of these episodes can go and am open to whatever someone thinks is coming, but you attack what I predict, I'm going to attack right back.
You want to come to Texas and hug this out?
One thing to consider about this last episode, and yeah it may have changed since due to this, but Gilligan had no plans of bringing Gray Matter back into the equation until he got that suggestion from that then-dying kid said he wanted it resolved
Posted on 9/25/13 at 2:23 pm to EarthwormJim
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So that obviously means that Walt's main intention is to go after them.
Do you think they just aren't resolving that story line? Really?
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As much as you bitched and called about people out for ASSUMING things in this, you sure have no problems running with your assumptions as if they are fact and then being a complete arse about it.
It is a fact that was stated in the show that Walt holds extreme animosity towards Elliott and Gretchen for forcing him out and stealing his kids' birth right. I'm not assuming anything to think that the catalyst for Walt being who he is will have a resolution in a series finale.
Posted on 9/25/13 at 2:24 pm to Ace Midnight
quote:that's the problem with walt, he never does anything for a sole reason. everything he does, aside from survival is for multiple reasons. he's going to tie up loose ends, and get back what is his from whomever he feels took it
I cannot believe Walt is going back solely for GM and his money. But it is possible.
Posted on 9/25/13 at 2:24 pm to LNCHBOX
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quote: Seriously? You think this is all about Gray Matter?
Are you retarded? Heisenberg never exists without Walt getting fricked out of Gray Matter.
Posted on 9/25/13 at 2:25 pm to LNCHBOX
i just think walt somehow gets GM to give money to his family
Posted on 9/25/13 at 2:25 pm to BlueIndian420
quote:you are becoming my favorite poster in this thread
BlueIndian420
Posted on 9/25/13 at 2:26 pm to LNCHBOX
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It is a fact that was stated in the show that Walt holds extreme animosity towards Elliott and Gretchen for forcing him out and stealing his kids' birth right.
I know we know this, but I don't think it has been dorectly stated.
Posted on 9/25/13 at 2:27 pm to Ace Midnight
I'll split the difference and say he is probably not going back to attack Gray Matter but that interview gave him a kick in the arse and reminded him that someone else stole his life's work and its spoils so it is motivating him to go down swinging against the Nazis.
He has to know that the Nazis didn't immediately kill Jesse post interrogation like they promised but it is possible that he thinks he's dead now. Depends on how stupid he believes Todd to be and whether he thinks Todd can cook the blue solo after a few months of Jesse's training.
He has to know that the Nazis didn't immediately kill Jesse post interrogation like they promised but it is possible that he thinks he's dead now. Depends on how stupid he believes Todd to be and whether he thinks Todd can cook the blue solo after a few months of Jesse's training.
Posted on 9/25/13 at 2:29 pm to Ace Midnight
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And she's already thinking ahead 3 and 4 moves. She may kill Todd, and keep Jesse.
By allowing Jesse to kill Todd.
Posted on 9/25/13 at 2:30 pm to Chair
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I know we know this, but I don't think it has been dorectly stated.
It was. Walt told Jesse he would never let it happen again. Back when Jesse and Mike wanted to get out the game.
Posted on 9/25/13 at 2:32 pm to LNCHBOX
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It was. Walt told Jesse he would never let it happen again. Back when Jesse and Mike wanted to get out the game.
I'll give you that one. I've only seen seasons 4-5 once or twice.
Posted on 9/25/13 at 2:33 pm to LNCHBOX
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Do you think they just aren't resolving that story line? Really?
The story with Gray Matter is relolved in it's current state. It was his motivation. Just like the interview this past week served as motivation. It called out his ego.
It's possible that Walt does something to "get back" at Gray Matter I guess, but it has served its purpose. Gray Matter isn't the main focus on the show, it isn't an antagonist.
This post was edited on 9/25/13 at 2:36 pm
Posted on 9/25/13 at 2:37 pm to EarthwormJim
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The story with Gray Matter is relolved in it's current state
No it isn't. Elliott and Gretchen refueled that fire with the interview. quote:
It's possible that Walt does something to "get back" at Gray Matter I guess, but it has served its purpose. Gray Matter isn't the main focus on the show, it isn't an antagonist.
GM goes all the way back to the beginning. You think the Nazis are a more important storyline that what made Walt who he is?
Posted on 9/25/13 at 2:37 pm to Carson123987
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i just think walt somehow gets GM to give money to his family
This is certainly possible - do the same sort of thing as they did to threaten Hank - maybe not a video, but a statement or some information that only he would have access to. Blackmail to have them give Skyler a seat on the board, or a lifetime consulting agreement, and give her the information to use if they stop.
(Or, that's who the ricin is for.
) That is what was clearly on his mind just prior to watching the interview - how to get some of the money to his family. That would certainly solve a lot of that. Skyler with a no-show, 6 figure consulting job would just about do the trick.
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