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re: Breaking Bad S5E15 9/22 "Granite State"

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Posted by SEClint
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Posted on 9/25/13 at 2:12 pm to
That graymatter shite gets to him. He checks the value of it as often as he can, you have to know that shite got to him when they said he contributed nothing.

Maybe the ricin is for those two
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 9/25/13 at 2:13 pm to
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So Walt kills Gretchen and Elliot and Jesse cooks meth forever. That's how the show ends. Awesome.


Did I say any of that?

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Walt thinks Jesse is dead


More than likely.

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and therefor they don't cross paths in the finale


Not a chance in hell.

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Because how can they cross paths, if Walt thinks he's dead and Jesse is held hostage and can't escape because they would kill Brock. I would like your valued opinion on this problem.


I think you're trying too hard.
Posted by GeauxAggie972
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Posted on 9/25/13 at 2:13 pm to
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That works


Okay, but in the scene he clearly still wanted Jesse dead, meaning the deal was still on regardless if they just jacked $70 mil from him.

He shoots Jesse right there and they go back to where Walt cooks for them in part of their agreement, but they didn't kill Jesse out there did they despite the deal they had with Walt?
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 9/25/13 at 2:13 pm to
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i gotta disagree, lunchbox. im on the other side. walt said on the phone with skyler that he still had things to do. he wanted to get a team of mercenaries to kill the nazis in the convo with saul. he has had this revenge mission in mind for quite some time. it's not all about GM


I said Nazis for the money as well.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 9/25/13 at 2:13 pm to
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So Walt kills Gretchen and Elliot and Jesse cooks meth forever. That's how the show ends. Awesome. So in your opinion, Walt thinks Jesse is dead, and therefor they don't cross paths in the finale. Because how can they cross paths, if Walt thinks he's dead and Jesse is held hostage and can't escape because they would kill Brock. I would like your valued opinion on this problem.


Hold on, now - LNCHBOX isn't completely off the reservation - I can easily see a possibility that Walt goes back to get his money and discovers Jesse still alive, cooking.

Because of how smart Walt is, I don't believe that, but it is a possibility - and I don't think a slight one. I will come back here and tell LNCHBOX he was right if that turns out to be the case. But his theory is plausible under the scenario I just outlined - I just don't subscribe to it.
Posted by EarthwormJim
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 9/25/13 at 2:14 pm to
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Are you retarded? Heisenberg never exists without Walt getting fricked out of Gray Matter.


Alright, I'll bookmark your post about his main intention is going after Gray Matter.

Let's not worry about the main fricking storyline throughout the show with Jesse and Walt's relationship or the main antagonists being built up all season in the nazis.

I didn't think it could be done, but your posting this week is way worse than last week when all you did was call Jesse a bitch.
This post was edited on 9/25/13 at 2:16 pm
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 9/25/13 at 2:15 pm to
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But his theory is plausible under the scenario I just outlined - I just don't subscribe to it.


This is all I'd like Chair to acknowledge. Do I think what I'm saying is likely? Of course not.

But to act like it is way out of left field and not based in perfectly logical thinking within that universe is ridiculous.
Posted by Chair
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Posted on 9/25/13 at 2:15 pm to
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He most certainly hired them, which is the main point. Do contract killers collect before or after?


Wait. You're expecting us to believe that Walter took these gyus word that they were gong to kill Jesse right after they almost killed HIM and right after they took most of his 70 million???
Posted by GeauxLSUGeaux
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Member since May 2004
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Posted on 9/25/13 at 2:15 pm to
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I think you're trying too hard.


Then you explain it to me then. If Walt thinks Jesse is dead, and it has everything to do with GM, how do Jesse and Walt meet up at the end? If him going back to NM has nothing to do with them talking about his blue meth?
This post was edited on 9/25/13 at 2:16 pm
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 9/25/13 at 2:15 pm to
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Wait. You're expecting us to believe that Walter took these gyus word that they were gong to kill Jesse right after they almost killed HIM and right after they took most of his 70 million???


They were going to kill Jesse right there. Do you even pay attention?
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 9/25/13 at 2:16 pm to
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Then you explain it to me then. If Walt thinks Jesse is dead, and it has everything to do with GM, how do Jesse and Walt meet up at the end? If him going back to NM has nothing to do with them talking about his blue meth?



Nazis maybe?
Posted by Flair Chops
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Posted on 9/25/13 at 2:16 pm to
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Maybe the ricin is for those two
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Posted by GeauxAggie972
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Posted on 9/25/13 at 2:17 pm to
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Do I think what I'm saying is likely? Of course not.


I understand you have an opinion, but if you think your way isn't likely, then why are you attacking everyone else that is thinking it goes in a different way?

You annoyed people because you make it sound like the way you think it's going to go is the ONLY way that it can go and you look to disprove every other scenario anyone suggests like it's blasphemy

That's the fun that Gilligan creates is that every episode can go in about 10 different directions, some none of us on here are even thinking about.
This post was edited on 9/25/13 at 2:19 pm
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 9/25/13 at 2:17 pm to
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They were going to kill Jesse right there. Do you even pay attention?


It was Todd, thinking of Lydia, that saved Jesse - he thought - a couple of batches of Heisenberg, maybe I'll learn something - worst case, back in Lydia's good graces for a while.

Todd is of the show right now, sort of an Opie Sheen - WINNING!
Posted by Chair
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 9/25/13 at 2:17 pm to
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This is all I'd like Chair to acknowledge.


Well, I GUESS anything is possible, sure.

But I think the writers inserted that blue meth comment for a reason in the interview.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 9/25/13 at 2:17 pm to
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Alright, I'll bookmark your post about his main intention is going after Gray Matter.


Does any of this show happen if Walt stayed with Gray Matter?

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Let's not worry about the main fricking storyline throughout the show with Jesse and Walt's relationship or the main antagonists being built up all season in the nazis.


I never said the Nazis or Jesse wouldn't be involved. More great reading skills.

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I didn't think it could be done, but your posting this week is way worse than last week when all you did was call Jesse a bitch.



Posted by Chair
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 9/25/13 at 2:18 pm to
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They were going to kill Jesse right there


Yea, and a lot has happened from that point in the dessert.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 9/25/13 at 2:18 pm to
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I understand you have an opinion, but if you think your way isn't likely, then why are you attacking everyone else that is thinking it goes in a different way?


Because you and chair acted like it wasn't possible that could be the case, when quite clearly it is perfectly reasonable for it to be the case.
Posted by GeauxLSUGeaux
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Member since May 2004
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Posted on 9/25/13 at 2:19 pm to
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Nazis maybe


Nazi's ? You said it didn't have anything to do with nazi's. you said he is solely going back because of gray matter and not the blue meth the nazis are still selling that only he and Jesse know how to make.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 9/25/13 at 2:19 pm to
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Yea, and a lot has happened from that point in the dessert.


That Walt has zero knowledge of.
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