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re: Breaking Bad S5E15 9/22 "Granite State"

Posted on 9/25/13 at 1:58 pm to
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 9/25/13 at 1:58 pm to
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Except he says that it IS (not WAS) reaching as far as Europe, meaning there is still blue meth out there, which causes him to ask her if Heisenberg is STILL alive.


It doesn't have to mean that though. There could still be reports about meth that made it over there a few months ago. You're just making an assumption to fit your argument.

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Errr, Wrong. Try again


Swing and a miss for you.

Posted by Flair Chops
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Posted on 9/25/13 at 1:59 pm to
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Walt knows his meth has already reached Europe. In that particular part of the interview, if that was mentioned, he would probably think they were just talking about him being its spoken in past tense.



there are continued reports of blue methamphetamine considered his signature product throughout the southwest and some evidence of reaching as far as europe
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 9/25/13 at 2:00 pm to
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You two are vastly underestimating the pride/ego of Walter in terms of this blue meth. The blue meth is HIS meth. It has been his meth for 3-4 years. If you aren't going to accept that fact, established throughout the show, then there's no point in keeping this up.


This has nothing to do with what I'm arguing, but thanks for pointing out things no one has claimed.


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You're quick to start the "well you can't just say Walter knows this happened, jsut because we know" but then you say Walter should just think Jesse is dead because "it was supposed to happen."


Good fricking god. He paid the Nazis to kill Jesse then handed him over. It is reasonable to assume Walt thinks Jesse has been killed way before that interview aired. Are you seriously trying to argue against that?
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 9/25/13 at 2:01 pm to
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there are continued reports of blue methamphetamine considered his signature product throughout the southwest and some evidence of reaching as far as europe



Could still be meth getting moved from distributor to street level dealer.
Posted by dr smartass phd
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Posted on 9/25/13 at 2:01 pm to
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Ignoring real world science for a second, and just focusing on the meth science/mythology of Breaking Bad - the only "true" blue meth that we know of is the result of methlymine AND Walt's customized revision of his process to accomodate methlymine as the precursor.


Nail meet hammer, the blue color is from Walt's personal tweak of chemistry. His signature
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Posted on 9/25/13 at 2:01 pm to
Jesus Christ
Posted by GeauxAggie972
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Posted on 9/25/13 at 2:01 pm to
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You're just making an assumption to fit your argument.


And your whole train of thought is an assumption as well. That's why talking about things that may happen in the next episode is called PREDICTIONS.

You are just the idiot trying, and failing, to get everyone on your train of thought.

So according to your line of thought, the ONLY reason Walter is going back to New Mexico is to attack Grey Matter and nothing else?
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 9/25/13 at 2:01 pm to
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Jesus Christ


You want to claim Walt wouldn't think that?
Posted by Flair Chops
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Posted on 9/25/13 at 2:02 pm to
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It doesn't have to mean that though. There could still be reports about meth that made it over there a few months ago. You're just making an assumption to fit your argument.
he's been out of the game a while, the blue meth had dried up in the southwest and in europe.
Posted by SEClint
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Posted on 9/25/13 at 2:02 pm to
Brings up a good argument on Walter's thought process though..

What would be more important to Walt, his money or his formula.

His formula is really now his only legacy.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 9/25/13 at 2:02 pm to
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You two are vastly underestimating the pride/ego of Walter in terms of this blue meth. The blue meth is HIS meth. It has been his meth for 3-4 years. If you aren't going to accept that fact, established throughout the show, then there's no point in keeping this up.


I agree with you. This will be proven out - either Walt will be surprised to discover Jesse is still alive, or it will be clear that he figured it out (and probably how/when). However, he also feels that way about Grey Matter - he feels as if he was robbed of the financial rewards - now, part of it he accepted the buyout - and his pride and foibles drove that, I'll wager - he refused to take their money, but used it as a cover for his meth profits.

However, the public dismissal of his contribution is just as big a sting to his ego as the blue meth, "his" meth as you say.

There are dual motives, then, for his return to New Mexico.
Posted by Flair Chops
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Posted on 9/25/13 at 2:02 pm to
goddamn, man, you are hopeless
Posted by SUB
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Posted on 9/25/13 at 2:03 pm to
Damn LNCH. Get ahold of yourself and clean out your vag. Sure Walt could think that Jesse is dead. Is it reasonable to assume that Walt could doubt this based on what he saw in the interview on tv? Yes. Doubt is not certainty and for you to deny that there could be 0 doubt in walt's mind is just absurd.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 9/25/13 at 2:03 pm to
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And your whole train of thought is an assumption as well.


Actually it's quite the opposite. You and Chair ASSUME that Walt knows it is his meth being reported on, when there is no actual evidence of that.

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You are just the idiot trying, and failing, to get everyone on your train of thought.


Yea, you two speak for everyone.

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So according to your line of thought, the ONLY reason Walter is going back to New Mexico is to attack Grey Matter and nothing else?



GrAy Matter, and yes that is his intention.

ETA: OF course Jesse will more than likely end up involved, but his main mission now is Gray Matter.
This post was edited on 9/25/13 at 2:06 pm
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 9/25/13 at 2:04 pm to
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Doubt is not certainty and for you to deny that there could be 0 doubt in walt's mind is just absurd.


I never said zero. All I said is that there is no guarantee that Walt knows Jesse is alive based off that interview.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 9/25/13 at 2:04 pm to
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he's been out of the game a while, the blue meth had dried up in the southwest and in europe.


Did they say this in the show?
Posted by GeauxLSUGeaux
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Posted on 9/25/13 at 2:05 pm to
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Good fricking god. He paid the Nazis to kill Jesse then handed him over. It is reasonable to assume Walt thinks Jesse has been killed way before that interview aired. Are you seriously trying to argue against that?


Lets assume you are right. Walt has no idea Jesse is alive. How do Jesse and Walt cross paths again in the finale if he thinks Jesse isn't alive? And Jesse is being held hostage. How do they meet again?! Are you really this fricking stupid?
Posted by GeauxAggie972
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Posted on 9/25/13 at 2:05 pm to
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GrAy Matter, and yes that is his intention.


Uh oh the spelling police, lord why did they invent an auto-correct on a cell phone if I would be called out?

So there will ZERO interaction with the neo-Nazis because he has no qualms with them?

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He paid the Nazis to kill Jesse then handed him over.


He paid them? I don't recall this happening in the show
This post was edited on 9/25/13 at 2:06 pm
Posted by dr smartass phd
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Posted on 9/25/13 at 2:05 pm to
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All I said is that there is no guarantee that Walt knows Jesse is alive based off that interview.


bullshite, there are only 2 people that can cook blue
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 9/25/13 at 2:06 pm to
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So there will ZERO interaction with the neo-Nazis because he has no qualms with them?


For his money, sure. Not because of Jesse.
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