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re: Breaking Bad S5E15 9/22 "Granite State"

Posted on 9/23/13 at 6:59 am to
Posted by dallastiger55
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Posted on 9/23/13 at 6:59 am to
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Interesting to see where all this leads next week. I dont see enough time to allow enough to happen. I think he ends up setting Gray Matter up for a fall like he did with the video on Hank. I still remember the earlier diner scene where he has a machine gun in his trunk. My take is he comes back and kills all the meth crew and saves Jesse before going out in a blaze of glory...only to show him somehow escaping to lead to another return later down the road.



i think he comes back and kills the Nazis and saves Jesse for sure.

VG wont leave it that wide open, all ive heard suggests that its full closure so Walt is going to die somehow.

what is the ricen is for himself? could he save Jesse, take the ricen and then go around for the next day before he passes out and says his goodbyes. gives Jesse half the money and tells him to GTFO out of town?


i think Jesse and the familys live, Walt, Lydia and the Nazis die
Posted by Flair Chops
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Posted on 9/23/13 at 7:02 am to
The ricin is for Eliot and Gretchen
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 9/23/13 at 7:11 am to
He's either figured out Jesse is still alive from the TV interview or he's going to see Andrea was murdered and figure it out.

Also.. Saul told Walt about managing a cinnabon In Kansas.. shouldn't have let on where he was going in front of Walt.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 9/23/13 at 7:16 am to
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He's either figured out Jesse is still alive from the TV interview


I don't see how that could be gleaned from the GM interview on Charlie Rose...

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he's going to see Andrea was murdered and figure it out.


He read all those newspapers, so he may have come across the obituary, although his narcissism probably had him looking only for new about himself and his family.
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 9/23/13 at 7:22 am to
Charlie Rose mentioned blue meth was still on the streets didn't he?
Posted by Flair Chops
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Posted on 9/23/13 at 7:25 am to
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Kansas
Nebraska

blue meth resurfacing plus andrea's death (that he would have seen in the papers) gives him the impression that jesse is alive and being forced to cook.

Posted by rondo
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Posted on 9/23/13 at 7:26 am to
I think Walt finds a way to ruin gray matter on paper... They talked about stock value and shite.


He won't kill Elliott but he will run him IMO.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 9/23/13 at 7:26 am to
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Charlie Rose mentioned blue meth was still on the streets didn't he?


Not sure. He mentioned the product being popular as far away as Europe (and I don't even recall if he mentioned the Czech Republic by name, even). I don't recall if he referred to blue, at all.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 9/23/13 at 7:28 am to
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blue meth resurfacing plus andrea's death (that he would have seen in the papers) gives him the impression that jesse is alive and being forced to cook.


This is a possibility I hadn't fully considered until now.
Posted by Flair Chops
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Posted on 9/23/13 at 7:31 am to
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e mentioned the product being popular as far away as Europe (and I don't even recall if he mentioned the Czech Republic by name, even).
he said europe, not the czech specifically
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I don't recall if he referred to blue, at all.
he did. they were talking about the blue resurfacing and wondering if heisenberg was still out there somewhere
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 9/23/13 at 7:34 am to
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he did. they were talking about the blue resurfacing and wondering if heisenberg was still out there somewhere


Well that's it, then - he might have read Andrea's obit or maybe not, but the blue resurfacing is probably what prompted him to go back for Jesse - although the way they left it, I'm not sure if he's going back to save him or kill him.

I retract my earlier statement where I said I didn't see how he gleaned Jesse was alive from the interview - I was focused on what the Scwartzs said, not what Charlie asked/referred to.
Posted by PortCityTiger24
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Posted on 9/23/13 at 7:47 am to
At this point I wouldn't be surprised if Walt gives the ricin to Brock

Assuming he's still alive.
Posted by EarthwormJim
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Posted on 9/23/13 at 7:49 am to
I need to watch the final scene again, for some reason I didn't hear the question about the blue meth resurfacing. I only remember them saying that the blue was distributed across the country and reached Europe.

IMO, the thing that got Walt out of his seat was when Gretchen said that Walter White doesn't exist anymore, Walt's ego is too big for him not to exist in some fashion.
Posted by rondo
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Posted on 9/23/13 at 7:51 am to
What she said that pissed off Walt was that he had nothing to do with Gray matter... Side from his name.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 9/23/13 at 7:52 am to
Why do so many think Walt is going to save Jesse? I think Walt made it pretty clear in the desert that he couldn't give one shite, much less two, about Jesse's fate.
This post was edited on 9/23/13 at 7:53 am
Posted by Flair Chops
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Posted on 9/23/13 at 7:54 am to
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I think Walt made it pretty clear in the desert that he couldn't give one shite, much less two, about Jesse's fate.

but he gives a shite that someone is replicating his product
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 9/23/13 at 7:55 am to
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but he gives a shite that someone is replicating his product


Doesn't mean he's going to save Jesse though. He may indirectly, but I don't think he's going back to ABQ thinking the plan is save Jesse.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/23/13 at 7:57 am to
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I think Walt made it pretty clear in the desert that he couldn't give one shite, much less two, about Jesse's fate.

that was when walt was trying to avoid getting exposed, and jesse was trying to expose him

things are different now
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 9/23/13 at 7:58 am to
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I don't think he's going back to ABQ thinking the plan is save Jesse.


he is going back to kill the NN, and then he will discover Jesse...

...and then the real stand off

pretty sure Jesse still wants to kill Walt

if it ends with them hugging it out, I'm going to be pissed
Posted by TheFolker
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Posted on 9/23/13 at 8:01 am to
Jesse is just as responsible for the misfortune of his loved ones as Walt is for his. He deserves to die just as much as Walt does.
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