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re: Black mirror season 4 SPOILERS thread that NOBODY asked for
Posted on 1/4/18 at 11:16 am to rondo
Posted on 1/4/18 at 11:16 am to rondo
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The whole idea of a computer generated representation of yourself being held hostage is most definitely the idea in both episodes.
I think it only makes sense at the end how the consciousness is trapped when they enter the wormhole during the patch update.
When you see Black Museum, the episode matches much better with White Christmas. Call it a mini-anthology with more shared concepts...
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Posted on 1/4/18 at 11:19 am to LSUBoo
I understood it was a simulation...
I don't get the switch to the real world and how that plays as the app.
I recognized the numbers that were listed on their little disc more now...so we actually saw on screen the 2 times it didn't work out. That's interesting.
I don't get the switch to the real world and how that plays as the app.
I recognized the numbers that were listed on their little disc more now...so we actually saw on screen the 2 times it didn't work out. That's interesting.
Posted on 1/4/18 at 11:24 am to Pectus
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so we actually saw on screen the 2 times it didn't work out. That's interesting.
I don't believe that's the case. The episode we saw was one simulation...#1000.
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I don't get the switch to the real world and how that plays as the app.
My understanding is that they were at the bar....saw each other in the distance and "right swiped" each other. In an instant the program ran 1000 simulations and told them they were a match.
This post was edited on 1/4/18 at 11:26 am
Posted on 1/4/18 at 11:25 am to Pectus
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I don't get the switch to the real world and how that plays as the app.
I guess anyone using this app inputs their 'consciousness' into it, and the app runs simulations with everyone paired up with everyone else until it finds the best possible match for those two people. Just because it was 998/1000 times for that pairing doesn't mean it's the same for everyone else. They didn't indicate how long that took in the real world, just that these two people had found a 99.8% match.
Posted on 1/4/18 at 11:26 am to rondo
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I don't believe that's the case. The episode we saw was one simulation...#1000.
This, that was just a final simulation. We only saw one simulation.
Posted on 1/4/18 at 11:26 am to Pectus
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I recognized the numbers that were listed on their little disc more now...so we actually saw on screen the 2 times it didn't work out. That's interesting
No, that whole thing was one simulation that did work out. The simulation showed that they would break the rules to be together even though they were told they weren't meant to be.
Posted on 1/4/18 at 11:28 am to rondo
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My understanding is that they were at the bar....saw each other in the distance and "right swiped" each other. In an instant the program ran 1000 simulations and told them they were a match.
I took it more like it was a "match.com" sort of thing, and the system had finally found their best match, and they were finally meeting at the bar. Either way works though.
Posted on 1/4/18 at 11:28 am to LSUBoo
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I guess I'm the only one that didn't really care for USS Callister... the Star Trek cheesiness was a bit much for me. And they had the girl in the real world steal the DNA back from the captain, but if he gets woken up and is brought back from the game, he can just collect more. No one in the real world knows to guard against it. Then there will be more clones of all these people in another closed off game.
I agree with you here. Callister was kind of a let down once I found out that they were just digital clones. To me it removed the idea of real danger.
But anyway I took the end to mean that the captain's consciousness got deleted with the game. Stealing the DNA ended up being irrelevant.
Posted on 1/4/18 at 11:28 am to Pectus
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And in the real world, the simulations that go rogue prove to be a good match?
i think they used the 'tinder' app to look for compatibility. the app ran the simulation 1000x in a few seconds(?) and found in only 3 out of 1000x did they not find a way to be together therefore it considers them a 'match'.
Posted on 1/4/18 at 11:32 am to CAD703X
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i think they used the 'tinder' app to look for compatibility. the app ran the simulation 1000x in a few seconds(?) and found in only 3 out of 1000x did they not find a way to be together therefore it considers them a 'match'.
I think the app simulated many potential matches of users. When they escaped 998/1000 times then the app matched the users.
Posted on 1/4/18 at 11:39 am to LSUBoo
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I guess anyone using this app inputs their 'consciousness' into it, and the app runs simulations with everyone paired up with everyone else until it finds the best possible match for those two people. Just because it was 998/1000 times for that pairing doesn't mean it's the same for everyone else. They didn't indicate how long that took in the real world, just that these two people had found a 99.8% match.
So what we saw was the computer algorithm doing the work to show that the two people that spied each other in the real world would work out at a 98% match?
Posted on 1/4/18 at 11:40 am to Pectus
We saw one out of a thousand simulations between the two of them.
Posted on 1/4/18 at 11:49 am to LSUBoo
OK. I think I get it now. I don't know how I missed/didn't relate all of that.
Maybe I was focused on the analogies to online dating in the majority of the episode.
Maybe I was focused on the analogies to online dating in the majority of the episode.
Posted on 1/4/18 at 11:49 am to Pectus
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So what we saw was the computer algorithm doing the work to show that the two people that spied each other in the real world would work out at a 98% match?
it was running the simulation for EVERYONE in the bar(?) block(?) city(?) i think (hence the other people in the simulation) and picked those 2 as matches which is why they glanced up at each other at the end.
i like the way she was moving towards him at the end.
This post was edited on 1/4/18 at 11:51 am
Posted on 1/4/18 at 1:11 pm to CAD703X
I liked all of the episodes with Hang the DJ being my favorite.
In Metalhead, the one thing I wish they would have expounded on was where did the robot dogs come from and how have they taken over.
I know all of the other episodes just drop technology on you and you're expected to roll with it, but if all of these episodes are in the same existence then where do these post apocalyptic dogs fit in? Or are they only in a small area guarding a teddy bear factory?
In Metalhead, the one thing I wish they would have expounded on was where did the robot dogs come from and how have they taken over.
I know all of the other episodes just drop technology on you and you're expected to roll with it, but if all of these episodes are in the same existence then where do these post apocalyptic dogs fit in? Or are they only in a small area guarding a teddy bear factory?
Posted on 1/4/18 at 1:15 pm to SLafourche07
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In Metalhead, the one thing I wish they would have expounded on was where did the robot dogs come from and how have they taken over.
I fully expect them to be an Easter egg or something in a future season.
Like we will see something in a story that shows the dogs being used as a delivery system or something.
Posted on 1/4/18 at 1:18 pm to Displaced
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Like we will see something in a story that shows the dogs being used as a delivery system or something.
would love to see an amazon-like company employing a 'friendly' version of these dogs to deliver packages and clogging all the sidewalks & people just walking around them & ignoring them as the scuttle around with packages on their backs.
people so used to the dogs delivering packages and pizza they forget they're even there...
This post was edited on 1/4/18 at 1:22 pm
Posted on 1/4/18 at 1:21 pm to Displaced
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Like we will see something in a story that shows the dogs being used as a delivery system or something.
Or futuristic "junkyard" guard dogs to protect something.
If there are future seasons.
Posted on 1/4/18 at 1:22 pm to CAD703X
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arkangel
i liked arkangel but thought they could have done more with the part where she was finally doing something dangerous (running away, hitchiking with strangers) with no way to track her or keep her safe. i thought that was the whole point is that her mom cried wolf so many times for no reason that when something bad really did happen to her, she was no longer able to be found.
As a parent I felt for her when the kid disappeared. One of the worse things ever to think about when you have a 3 year old.
But this is the epitome of why you don't want to know everything you kid is doing. You hope to raise them right to make the best decisions when they get older.
I liked this episode more than most do.
Posted on 1/4/18 at 1:23 pm to t00f
I was certain that it was going to end with the censor being permanently stuck on when she was beating her mom with the iPad.
It would have been a very Black Mirror ending.
It would have been a very Black Mirror ending.
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