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BitTorrent Live - A potential ESPN killer?
Posted on 1/8/13 at 1:32 pm
Posted on 1/8/13 at 1:32 pm
https://live.bittorrent.com/
I'm sure most of you are familiar with the BitTorrent protocol.
I'm also sure most of you are also familiar with pirate sports broadcasting sites.
Now, obviously the rights holders don't really like those pirated sites and they attempt to get the government to shut them down. There was a well known mass shutdown of sites prior to the Super Bowl a couple years ago. Despite that, the government has been pretty much useless in actually stopping the pirating of sports online.
So it would seem like a technology like BitTorrent live might not be needed, but I think everyone sees the writing on the wall with legislations like SOPA and the European equivalent ACTA being attempted.
Enter a technology like BitTorrent live.
This will decentralize the (re)broadcasting of the content. No longer will there be a central server to shut down.
People will be able to (re)broadcast their ESPN stream to anyone interested in viewing it, and the quality will be very high.
Or perhaps our local LSU baseball Justin.tv (re)broadcaster is tired of getting his streams shut down. BitTorrent live might be the solution.
The technology will always be ahead of the state. How much longer can intellectual property laws survive?
I'm sure most of you are familiar with the BitTorrent protocol.
I'm also sure most of you are also familiar with pirate sports broadcasting sites.
Now, obviously the rights holders don't really like those pirated sites and they attempt to get the government to shut them down. There was a well known mass shutdown of sites prior to the Super Bowl a couple years ago. Despite that, the government has been pretty much useless in actually stopping the pirating of sports online.
So it would seem like a technology like BitTorrent live might not be needed, but I think everyone sees the writing on the wall with legislations like SOPA and the European equivalent ACTA being attempted.
Enter a technology like BitTorrent live.
This will decentralize the (re)broadcasting of the content. No longer will there be a central server to shut down.
People will be able to (re)broadcast their ESPN stream to anyone interested in viewing it, and the quality will be very high.
Or perhaps our local LSU baseball Justin.tv (re)broadcaster is tired of getting his streams shut down. BitTorrent live might be the solution.
The technology will always be ahead of the state. How much longer can intellectual property laws survive?
This post was edited on 1/8/13 at 1:36 pm
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Posted on 1/8/13 at 1:39 pm to WikiTiger
quote:so if it succeeds in killing ESPN, it succeeds in killing itself too?
People will be able to (re)broadcast their ESPN stream to anyone interested in viewing it, and the quality will be very high.
Posted on 1/8/13 at 1:40 pm to baytiger
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so if it succeeds in killing ESPN, it succeeds in killing itself too?
No, not at all.
It's just a protocol anyway. It can't really be killed. It could eventually just go unused if people didn't find it beneficial.
I only used the "ESPN killer" in the thread title to illustrate one example.
It probably won't actually kill ESPN, but it might actually force them to adapt their business practices to the times.
Posted on 1/8/13 at 1:52 pm to WikiTiger
ESPN needs to wake up and realize it needs to offer a streaming option, either per game, per month, per season, or some shite like that.
I WANT to buy ESPN3, and would gladly pay for a high quality stream. ESPN won't let me.
eta: 12 years ago, I so wanted spotify. But it wasnt offered, so I got into pirating. Like hell I go back to not pirating now
I WANT to buy ESPN3, and would gladly pay for a high quality stream. ESPN won't let me.
eta: 12 years ago, I so wanted spotify. But it wasnt offered, so I got into pirating. Like hell I go back to not pirating now
This post was edited on 1/8/13 at 1:55 pm
Posted on 1/8/13 at 1:54 pm to buddhavista
Didn't intel announce recently that it was thinking about providing a service where you could basically order specific channels you wanted to watch rather than the current system cable companies use
Posted on 1/8/13 at 1:55 pm to Gnar Cat21
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Didn't intel announce recently that it was thinking about providing a service where you could basically order specific channels you wanted to watch rather than the current system cable companies use
its already dead.
Posted on 1/8/13 at 1:57 pm to buddhavista
I figured it would be shot down
Posted on 1/8/13 at 1:59 pm to buddhavista
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eta: 12 years ago, I so wanted spotify. But it wasnt offered, so I got into pirating. Like hell I go back to not pirating now
Exactly! That's pretty much the crux of all my arguments on IP on this site.
People will always come into these threads and argue that ESPN (or cable networks) will adjust when they have to.
I'm arguing that they will wait until it's too late and they will have alienated a large portion of their customer base.
Right now, a lot of people would pay for a robust ESPN3-like service. If they keep on preventing them from doing so, then they may find themselves hurting for a decade or more as people become used to pirating their content and eventually feel no need to ever pay for it.
The time to ADAPT is now, not later. But they won't.
Posted on 1/8/13 at 2:01 pm to buddhavista
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buddhavista
Also, imagine other uses for this technology.
You could essentially create your own TV network, with scheduled broadcasts.
People can watch movies you (re)broadcast and socialize while doing so. Imagine a TD.com Movie Board weekly group viewing of the "100 movies we agree don't suck." How fun would that be?
Posted on 1/8/13 at 4:08 pm to WikiTiger
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Imagine a TD.com Movie Board weekly group viewing of the "100 movies we agree don't suck." How fun would that be?
That would be fun.
Posted on 1/8/13 at 4:14 pm to WikiTiger
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People can watch movies you (re)broadcast and socialize while doing so. Imagine a TD.com Movie Board weekly group viewing of the "100 movies we agree don't suck." How fun would that be?
This already exists. I watch wrestling ppvs online and there's usually some sort of chatroom on the side of the screen. There's always people on 4chan streaming movies and video games too.
Posted on 1/8/13 at 4:17 pm to Brosef Stalin
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This already exists. I watch wrestling ppvs online and there's usually some sort of chatroom on the side of the screen. There's always people on 4chan streaming movies and video games too.
Yes, I agree it already exists. But they typically utilize a central server, which is the weakpoint in the system because they can be easily shut down.
The idea behind a BitTorrent based solution is the decentralized nature of it all.
If you are already using a decentralized solution, then that's cool and I'd love it if you could share more info on it.
Posted on 1/8/13 at 4:18 pm to WikiTiger
Firstrowsports has always done the job for me when it comes to NFL, UFC, and soccer
As long as you have Ad Blocker i highly recommend this site
As long as you have Ad Blocker i highly recommend this site
Posted on 1/8/13 at 4:22 pm to WikiTiger
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If you are already using a decentralized solution, then that's cool and I'd love it if you could share more info on it.
I don't know how to do it myself. I can always find a stream for wrestling and UFC ppvs but they do get shut down sometimes. It's not too hard to find another stream though.
Posted on 1/8/13 at 4:29 pm to WikiTiger
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The time to ADAPT is now, not later. But they won't.
Its endemic across industries. There is a complete change in how people want to interact with companies. Adapt or die.
Just look at target price matching amazon. They are doing it b.c they are getting skull fricked by amazon. I am just eager for amazon to get some real competition when it comes to online shopping.
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Imagine a TD.com Movie Board weekly group viewing of the "100 movies we agree don't suck." How fun would that be?
I wouldn't view that as fun, but I can see how others might like it. While the movie/tv board is better than other boards, this site has a lot of fricking douches on it. Not you, but you know.
Posted on 1/8/13 at 4:31 pm to MrPackSix
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Firstrowsports has always done the job for me when it comes to NFL, UFC, and soccer
yea, firstrow has been great, but it is a centralized server based system, and thus one vulnerable to being shut down.
if pieces of legislation like SOPA and ACTA ever get passed, then sites like firstrow will be in jeopardy
Enter something like BitTorrent Live to fill the vacuum
Posted on 1/8/13 at 4:33 pm to buddhavista
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Its endemic across industries. There is a complete change in how people want to interact with companies. Adapt or die.
Why do you suppose there is so much resistance?
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this site has a lot of fricking douches on it. Not you, but you know.
It's ok, I can admit my douchiness. The key to being a successful message board douche, however, is that you have to be able to make people laugh.
Posted on 1/8/13 at 4:36 pm to WikiTiger
I'm all for it killing ESPN, because it was an absolute bitch getting programing from them from abroad. Always did BitTorrent. ESPN is pretty much a monopoly and I welcome competition to it.
Posted on 1/8/13 at 4:38 pm to buddhavista
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ESPN needs to wake up and realize it needs to offer a streaming option, either per game, per month, per season, or some shite like that.
I WANT to buy ESPN3, and would gladly pay for a high quality stream. ESPN won't let me.
eta: 12 years ago, I so wanted spotify. But it wasnt offered, so I got into pirating. Like hell I go back to not pirating now
I don't see why you should have to pay for this. Why not just watch it and go through the commercials like people on TV do? Some networks have caught up with the times due to the fact that they have actual competing networks. ESPN really doesn't, or at least any that are a remote threat to it.
Posted on 1/8/13 at 4:40 pm to WikiTiger
Double Post
This post was edited on 1/8/13 at 4:42 pm
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