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re: Big Brother Season 23 Thread - LIVE Premiere July 7th 8pm ET - CBS
Posted on 7/27/21 at 8:20 am to Bamatab
Posted on 7/27/21 at 8:20 am to Bamatab
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The problem in the end will be the Cookout. If all of the Cookout members make it to jury, then it will be almost impossible for anyone else to win
Why is that a problem? Kyland and Tiffany have played top notch games. If they make it to the end, while carrying their alliance all the way to jury, they would deserve it. It's no different than any other alliance making it far.
I don't think you see The Cookout stay firm anyway.
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Posted on 7/27/21 at 8:51 am to lionward2014
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The cracks are already starting. I can see Kyland or Tiffany taking a shot sooner rather than later.
Unfortunately they won't be taking shots at each other before jury. And even then, the only one that might get taken out with their own hands might be Azah if she flips out again about people targeting Brit. But even just yesterday Tiff and Ky were talking about replacing Christian and Alyssa with Hannah & Azah at final 8.
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Tiffany- If we are trying to get the six there, Derek X's scenario is best because he wants Azah and Hannah. Kyland- I feel like it's helpful if you can loosen up on not appearing as smart as you are. When we had our bathroom HoH conversation, you didnt downplay it #BB23
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Kyland- The thing I told him (Derek X) is how you came in and said "I will never have Azah's vote". He was like "then we should bring Azah". Tiffany- That worked #BB23
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Tiffany- I would love to keep Little D with us. He is a POC. Kyland- Same. Tiffany- He is not no different than us to me. He is the only one by himself. We got six, he got one #BB23
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Kyland- The only separation I find between the six and the one is he is the one this year but there was a one that won. If one of us had won a previous year, I'd probably play the game differently. Tiffany- I agree with that #BB23
The six that they are referring to is the Cookout. Now I'm not saying that all 6 will even make it to final 8, but I would be surprised if they don't make it to jury. And once they are in jury, I feel that most of them will vote for another Cookout member at the end (the exception might be Azah because she is very emotional and might be a bitter juror if she feels betrayed) because a black person has to win this season. I hope I'm wrong, but as of right now, I don't think I am.
It also kind of rubbed me the wrong way when Ky basically said that DX is the wrong kind of POC because an Asian has won in the past...once.
Posted on 7/27/21 at 9:02 am to Hold That Tiger 10
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Why is that a problem? Kyland and Tiffany have played top notch games. If they make it to the end, while carrying their alliance all the way to jury, they would deserve it. It's no different than any other alliance making it far.
If Ky and/or Tiff make it to the end, then their gameplay will merit the win, and I would absolutely be fine with either of them winning because they have been major forces in the game. What I wouldn't want to see is BigD or Ahaz or even Hannah get dragged to the end as a goat, and them beating out someone like DerekX or Claire or SB who have actually been playing this game just because "the cause" is bigger than the game. That's all I'm saying. Also, like I said, Ky's comment about DX being the wrong POC rubbed me the wrong way.
But I'm going to drop this. I don't want to drag this thread down like another poster has been doing. Like I said, I'm definitely not opposed to Ky or Tiff winning this game because they would definitely deserve it. But someone like BigD or Azah winning would be a shame unless they flip a switch and start actually playing the game.
This post was edited on 7/27/21 at 9:07 am
Posted on 7/27/21 at 9:25 am to Bamatab
I thought Derek F was going to play a solid game at the beginning. He still can, but he allowed Frenchie to drag him down. He has a lot of work to do to recover. It doesn't help that the entire team was/is absolute garbage. He needed to break away from that the second he saw Frenchie sinking, but he didn't.
Posted on 7/27/21 at 9:31 am to Bamatab
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If Ky and/or Tiff make it to the end, then their gameplay will merit the win, and I would absolutely be fine with either of them winning because they have been major forces in the game. What I wouldn't want to see is BigD or Ahaz or even Hannah get dragged to the end as a goat, and them beating out someone like DerekX or Claire or SB who have actually been playing this game just because "the cause" is bigger than the game.
That's a completely fair assessment/position, and one I think most actual fans of the show hold.
If we broke the house into tiers of who's playing the best game I think it goes:
Tier 1: Tiff and Ky
Tier 2: Derex, SB, and Hannah (without Derex she drops some)
Tier 3: Claire and X (both are well positioned but need to expand their relationships)
Tier 4: Alyssa, Christian, and Whitney (all playing fine, but not good enough to make a deep run)
Tier 5: Azah, DerekF, and Britni (all just suck at this game)
Tier 6: Brent
Posted on 7/27/21 at 9:52 am to lionward2014
I would probably put Derex in tier one but other then that I agree with you.
Posted on 7/27/21 at 10:05 am to Hold That Tiger 10
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I thought Derek F was going to play a solid game at the beginning. He still can, but he allowed Frenchie to drag him down. He has a lot of work to do to recover. It doesn't help that the entire team was/is absolute garbage. He needed to break away from that the second he saw Frenchie sinking, but he didn't.
All that dude does is hibernate in that back bedroom all day, and every once in awhile makes his way to one of the eviction chairs in the living room. But I will say yesterday he changed it up a little, and decided to hibernate in Xavier's HoH room instead of the back bedroom.
But that dude doesn't do crap but talk crap all day about what he is going to do (if he ever decided to separate himself from a piece of furniture), but then says he's not planning on winning a comp until final 6 (like he could actually win a final 6 comp). He's frustrating to watch play this game.
Posted on 7/27/21 at 10:14 am to Lugnut
I do think Derek F's social could move him up a tier, but he keeps attaching himself to dead weight. Frenchie first, and now Azah.
Posted on 7/27/21 at 2:22 pm to Bamatab
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Derek F
I'm starting to feel the same way about him.. Get off your arse and do something. Go workout.. He could workout all day and lose some weight..
Posted on 7/27/21 at 2:29 pm to JDPndahizzy
Every time I've turned on the feeds he's cooking something.
Posted on 7/28/21 at 7:36 am to The Spleen
I have tried but I’ve really lost all interest in this season.
Seeing this thread on the second page makes me think others have too. I hope it picks up.
Seeing this thread on the second page makes me think others have too. I hope it picks up.
Posted on 7/28/21 at 8:34 am to Bronson2017
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I hope it picks up.
Me too. On the bright side it seems Brent will be totally blindsided on eviction night. That's always funny. At least that's what I read on Jokers..
Posted on 7/28/21 at 8:36 am to Bronson2017
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I have tried but I’ve really lost all interest in this season.
Seeing this thread on the second page makes me think others have too. I hope it picks up.
Really liking the season so far, and think it will get better in the next few weeks. Hopefully this thread picks up.
Posted on 7/28/21 at 8:48 am to lionward2014
Weekly has been boring as far as evictions are concerned since everything is basically set in stone by Sunday night. But I like this cast and think it’s gonna get good in a few weeks
Posted on 7/28/21 at 8:58 am to CE Tiger
It is kind of setting up for the Royal Flush to steamroll the house, so I hope something shakes that up soon. Azah winning HOH could do that as she seems frustrated with how the game/alliance is going.
Posted on 7/28/21 at 9:05 am to The Spleen
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Azah winning HOH
That would be very interesting...
Posted on 7/28/21 at 10:09 am to The Spleen
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It is kind of setting up for the Royal Flush to steamroll the house
This 100%
I saw yesterday Christian was volunteering Alyssa to go up as a pawn next week
It’s a very likable cast but JFC the only ones who have any clue what is going on are the Queens and DX and maybe Hannah.
It’s a race to F2 between Ky and Tiff and it really won’t even be close. Only question is when they take a shot at each other.
I’m rooting for Tiffany because she has a kid and just seems really likable.
Posted on 7/28/21 at 10:17 am to Tiger Voodoo
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It’s a race to F2 between Ky and Tiff and it really won’t even be close. Only question is when they take a shot at each other.
Ky slipped up and mentioned the name of the Tiff/SB/Claire alliance to Tiff last night, which he learned from SB. Hopefully they start to distrust each other. If the recap I was reading last night was correct, Tiff is starting to maybe turn on the Cookout.
Think the double eviction will be the point that makes or breaks the season. Someone like Derex winning the second one and taking a shot may change the course.
Hopefully this HOH is luck and Britni wins.
Posted on 7/28/21 at 10:34 am to lionward2014
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Hopefully this HOH is luck and Britni wins
Who would she put up? Ky and Xavier?
Posted on 7/28/21 at 11:36 am to JDPndahizzy
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Who would she put up? Ky and Xavier?
That's what I hope for, but who knows.
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