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Posted on 7/23/21 at 9:15 am to
Posted by The Spleen
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Posted on 7/23/21 at 9:15 am to
Xavier told someone(forget how) last night that Britini would not be his target and he didn't want to use her as a pawn again.

Barring any Wild Card craziness, I think it'll be Brent and Whitney. Most of the house seems to want Brent out, so going against that would be risky this early in the game.
Posted by JDPndahizzy
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Posted on 7/23/21 at 9:15 am to
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I legit do not know any alliances outside of maybe 1 or 2

Yeah same here. Slaughterhouse was a joke from the beginning. I know of Cookout which is all the black people and the one that KY put together (royal flush) that was a great idea.
Posted by JDPndahizzy
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Posted on 7/23/21 at 9:18 am to
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Barring any Wild Card craziness, I think it'll be Brent and Whitney

I can see that... We'll know soon. Noms and Wildcard today.
Posted by lionward2014
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Posted on 7/23/21 at 9:18 am to
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He and Cristian talked about Brent and Whitney last night. I don't like Brent, but kinda hoping he wins the WC and send this HOH into a bit of chaos.



I agree, it will get entertaining in the final 8 or so if everything is chalk until then, but for entertainment purposes hope something goes amiss before then.
Posted by The Spleen
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Posted on 7/23/21 at 9:31 am to
I think the alliances are a bit fluid this year because of two things. One, the team thing has made it trickier. Two, Frenchie's instability and delusion blurred the lines on most of them because he was involved in most of them.
Posted by JDPndahizzy
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Posted on 7/23/21 at 9:47 am to
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alliances are a bit fluid this year

quote:

Frenchie


Amen....Frenchie fricked up a lot of things but it made it interesting.. although I was glad to see him leave. Lines will start being drawn from here on out.
Posted by JDPndahizzy
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Posted on 7/23/21 at 11:30 am to
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Kyland and Tiffany hold hands as they talk in the HNR. They just made a F2 together and Tiffany says they’ve got to think of a name.
Posted by The Spleen
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Posted on 7/23/21 at 11:52 am to
That would be a really strong duo if they can keep themselves under the radar. Tiffany is going to make herself a target pretty soon though I'm afraid, if she hasn't already.
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
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Posted on 7/23/21 at 1:13 pm to
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I don't like Brent, but kinda hoping he wins the WC and send this HOH into a bit of chaos.




Yeah this is where I am.

We hadn’t watched all week but caught up last night and Brent is a tool. Telling Whitney that three girls need to go in a row is just stupid, even if you think she’s your ride or die.

Like make the point that a girl should go next but don’t tell a girl the guys need to get the numbers back on their side WTF??


This is why those complaining about the “poor white guys” being ganged up on are missing the point.

Travis got a raw deal imo, but that was because of dumbass crazy Frenchie, another white guy.

The same people saying “frick Frenchie’s fake woke arse” are the same ones saying it’s “racist” that all the white guys are going home lol.


Then the whole house turned on him, rightfully so, and now Brent is the next one that is just annoying and pissing people off and playing a terrible game.


There is still a shot if Brent gets his shite together that he can convince the guys that taking him out over Whitney would be very dangerous for the guys going forward, but that would require calm calculation. He did that when he was in trouble with Frenchie week 1, so maybe he can do it again, and he’ll be telling them the truth. Xavier Ky DX and Christian really need him to stay imo, but I’m not sure any of them realize that yet.


And yeah WC and Veto could obviously shake things up, so hoping for that as always.
This post was edited on 7/23/21 at 1:30 pm
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
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Posted on 7/23/21 at 1:19 pm to
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KY put together (royal flush) that was a great idea.



Yeah the Kings Queens and Ace in DX would wreck shop.

Once the numbers are whittled down it would end up being Tiff Claire and Ky vs Christian Alyssa and Xavier with SB and DX as the sort of swings.

I think they’d lean more towards the Queen side so the Kings need to be very careful right now, given that Xavier is in power and might be sending a potential long term ally out the door.

I’m not sure that side has started thinking long term yet, but the Queens side definitely has, which is probably why they are going to win.
Posted by lionward2014
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Posted on 7/23/21 at 1:42 pm to
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That would be a really strong duo if they can keep themselves under the radar. Tiffany is going to make herself a target pretty soon though I'm afraid, if she hasn't already.


Still think she's playing best but she is starting to get a little Icarus-like with her scheming. She needs to lay low for a week or two, she has her plans laid out and the numbers to support it. That's what separates people like Dereck and Tyler, they knew when to step it back and stop (appearing to) scheming.
Posted by MONROE
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Posted on 7/23/21 at 3:37 pm to
I think the cookout will made it til the end. They will all rally behind their color but it won’t be viewed as racism.
Posted by The Spleen
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Posted on 7/23/21 at 7:58 pm to
Brent and Brittini on the block. Brent is blindsided.
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
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Posted on 7/23/21 at 8:44 pm to
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Xavier said he wanted to talk to him before he has to go. Xavier called to DR. feeds cut to kittens NT - silverspoons

Fri 4:32 PM PT Brent says Xavier is trying to do what Frenchie did and Xavier should do the simple plan. NT - silverspoons

Fri 4:30 PM PT Brent to Xavier: "You can't put me up. My team will be pissed." NT - katstoy

Fri 4:30 PM PT Brent says to Xavier we have something beautiful. Big D has betrayed us twice. Xavier says do you trust me. Brent says if I go up, no. Brent says Alyssa wants her team to work with his team NT - silverspoons

Fri 4:28 PM PT Brent says wholeheartly do not put me up. Brent will not tell his team what Xavier has said.Brent says use an actual pawn not me. Brent says he would never put Xavier up as a pawn NT - silverspoons

Fri 4:27 PM PT Brent says to Xavier he can't risk being on the block. Brent says we have the numbers. Brent is not comfortable with going up. Xavier says by nom;ing you I betray you. Brent says yes NT - silverspoons

Fri 4:25 PM PT Xavier leaves the HOh and Azah wants to talk to him. Brent comes in HOH and Xavier says how do you feel about being a nom. Brent says too many people want him out. Frenchie warned him.Brent says he is not a pawn, he is threat. Xavier says Brit is the threat NT - silverspoons




“Brit is the threat”

Xavier and Christian just totally getting played by Ky and DX. Kind of weird that they can’t see how close those two are with Tiff and Claire.

Would really be shocked at this point if that isn’t the F4. I guess Hannah and Sarah Beth could work their way in there as well, but that group is turning into a Level 6 powerhouse.


And that makes the Kings....





This post was edited on 7/23/21 at 9:20 pm
Posted by JDPndahizzy
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Posted on 7/23/21 at 10:06 pm to
Who won wildcard? And what was twist? Do we know?
Posted by lionward2014
New Orleans
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Posted on 7/23/21 at 10:18 pm to
Tiffany, not sure what it was but she didn’t take it.
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
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Posted on 7/24/21 at 6:22 am to
So Brent kind of knows he’s in trouble, but doesn’t understand how badly he’s screwed because he still thinks Christian, Whit, and Alyssa are with him.


quote:

Derek X telling Ky and Claire that Brent says he is not a pawn, he is the target NT - silverspoons

Fri 6:34 PM PT Xavier says to Derek X that Brent will not blow it up. It is all reverse psychology. Derek X says to Xavier that Brent believes Ky is the weak link NT - silverspoons

Fri 6:33 PM PT Brent says to Alyssa we still have a final 2 NT - silverspoons

Fri 6:32 PM PT Alyssa says to Brent, you have me, Christian and Sarah Beth. Brent says Xavier was nervous during noms. He swallowing and shaking. Brent says that says to him he is the target. NT - silverspoons

Fri 6:30 PM PT Alyssa says Xavier says he wanted Brent to Play veto and not have another Derek X win. Brent says we can recover from this. NT - silverspoons

Fri 6:30 PM PT Brent tells Alyssa that right before noms he told Xavier if he put him up that it means war and that Xavier chose that option. He tells Alyssa it makes no sense he was put up as a pawn against Britini. NT - silverspoons

Fri 6:28 PM PT Brent tells the Aces that nothing about him screams "pawn" and that there are plenty of other people in the house that could've been used. NT - silverspoons

Fri 6:26 PM PT Xavier tells Claire and Kyland in the Have-Not room that Brent thinks he is a target, but not the main target. They say Brent isn't dumb and Xavier tells them not to tell Brent too much so he doesn't catch on. NT - silverspoons

Fri 6:14 PM PT Xavier tells the Kings that Brent wanted two non-Slaughter House members to go up, which is what is causing Brent to be concerned about his nomination. NT - silverspoons




Also, full on showmance going

quote:

Xavier is laughing with Christian and Alyssa about catching them kissing. He says he's been on to them for a while: "You think you're slick?" NT - katstoy

Xavier walked in on Christian and Alyssa kissing. He tells them dinner's ready and leaves. Christian: "We're f*cked." Alyssa: "I told you that was gonna happen. We were in his bed." NT - katstoy

Christian and Alyssa are making out on the HOH bed. NT 07/23/21 08:28 PM



How do these idiots not understand how easily they are going to be the next targets once Brent is gone?? Especially as a couple


Really hoping Brent wins veto because it would send the royal flush into scramble mode for a replacement nom.

Xavier wouldn’t put up Whit, although that would be the easiest to explain because of the Aces connection. But I think Whit would flip out on the block and end up spilling the Kings/Queens alliance to the jokers and Aces. Hannah is also an Ace but again she could blow up what the Queens have been doing, not sure if she’s considered part of cookout or not but that would be another reason not to put her up.

DX is also an Ace but Ky would probably try to steer him away from that, also potentially tipping his hand that X is the Queens’ Ace, although Xavier and that crew probably won’t figure that out


If for some reason RF tried to convince him to put up Christian or Alyssa he’d have to know the Kings are being played by the Queens.


If he puts up DF or Azah they will know the Jokers are on the outs and they could blow up the cookout.


Really hoping for a Brent veto this week, because there isn’t anyone else that would pull him off if they win it.

A Jokers win would probably mean Brit comes down because they’re upset Brit went up again as a pawn, but Xavier would probably feel comfortable enough putting Whit up as long as she’s next to Brent so that probably wouldn’t change much.
This post was edited on 7/24/21 at 8:06 am
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 7/24/21 at 8:46 am to
I watched the feeds for a couple of hours last night for the first time this season and a couple of observations.

1. Holy shite is Brent arrogant. No wonder the house has turned on him. He kept saying “I’m not pawn material,” which is somewhat true but maybe tone it down a bit.

2. I’d be canceled if I was on this season because of negative comments I’d make about Brittini. I guess maybe it’s her autism, but I couldn’t change the feed fast enough when she was talking. Very grating.
Posted by lionward2014
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2015
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Posted on 7/24/21 at 11:05 am to
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I’d be canceled if I was on this season because of negative comments I’d make about Brittini. I guess maybe it’s her autism, but I couldn’t change the feed fast enough when she was talking. Very grating


Reddit was out for blood last week for people making comments about her freak outs.

Apparently Azah is mad at Tiffany and the Cookout. She may talk herself out the game quickly. I don’t think X will nominate her this week, but she’s making herself target #1 to be cut from the group. Frenchie’s disfunction still paying off even after he’s gone.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 7/24/21 at 6:22 pm to
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Apparently Azah is mad at Tiffany and the Cookout.


Yeah, Tiffany didn’t pick Brittini for something during the Wild Card. Azah is also mad and feels like her group is on the bottom of the alliance because they werent at all involved with the Brent discussions. Derek F was frustrated with her last night.
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