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re: Big Brother 21 - Season Long Thread - Premiere June 25th

Posted on 9/12/19 at 9:04 pm to
Posted by AHM21
Member since Feb 2008
24526 posts
Posted on 9/12/19 at 9:04 pm to
Nicole is HOH

Endurance lasted less than five minutes - because of course this season would deliver another let down.

I went to turn feeds on and Nicole was already wearing her key.
This post was edited on 9/12/19 at 9:25 pm
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
42611 posts
Posted on 9/12/19 at 9:12 pm to
I just don't get Cliff and Nicole's decision not to vote Holly out.

If they vote Holly out, one of them or Tommy will win HOH since Michie can't play. Any of the three would have had Michie as the target. Michie goes up, Michie gets voted out, Cliff and Nicole are both in the F3. The only potential issue is if Tommy wins HOH and Michie gets nominated but wins veto and takes himself off, then Cliff or Nicole leave. However, there is a better chance that voting out Holly puts you in the final three than it results in one of you leaving this coming week. Now, if Holly wins the HOH (likely), both of them are for sure going up and one of them will go home.

One of them better win HOH.

EDIT: Nicole wins HOH.
This post was edited on 9/12/19 at 9:15 pm
Posted by AHM21
Member since Feb 2008
24526 posts
Posted on 9/12/19 at 9:14 pm to
Jackson and Holly going up.

Veto will decide who goes.

Nicole locks up a spot in final three and assures she will be in the house come finale night.
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
42611 posts
Posted on 9/12/19 at 9:16 pm to
Still a problem for Cliff and Nicole, showing that they should have evicted Holly tonight. Assuming Holly and Michie go up, if Michie wins veto, Holly will come down and Cliff will go up. Michie will then vote to evictt Cliff.

Cliff or Nicole better win Veto.
This post was edited on 9/12/19 at 9:19 pm
Posted by Smoke7024
Member since Jun 2010
22686 posts
Posted on 9/12/19 at 9:28 pm to
It’s basically 2 v 2 for veto where it would’ve been 3 v 1 if Holly went. Dumb decision that will prob cost Cliff or Nicole the game.
Posted by TDsngumbo
Alpha Silverfox
Member since Oct 2011
41634 posts
Posted on 9/12/19 at 9:30 pm to
Yea that was fricking dumb of them to vote Tommy out. I know they’re thinking about jury votes but still, give me this week over next week any week.
Posted by HHS7
Member since Jul 2017
348 posts
Posted on 9/12/19 at 9:43 pm to
Holly said she could have stayed up there all night but she threw it to Nicole as promised to keep her.
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
21079 posts
Posted on 9/12/19 at 9:49 pm to
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I just don't get Cliff and Nicole's decision not to vote Holly out


They were leaning more towards keeping Tommy until Jackson pulled off his stunt. It was brilliant game play by him, and it paid off.

You can make a case for why they should have sent Tommy home. Cliff and Nicole talked about it all week. So, Jackson putting some doubt in Cliff and Nicole's mind that Tommy may work with him after they voted out Holly was what changed their mind.

Posted by msutiger
Shreveport
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 9/12/19 at 9:57 pm to
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Posted by crimsonsaint
Member since Nov 2009
37250 posts
Posted on 9/12/19 at 10:08 pm to
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Holly said she could have stayed up there all night but she threw it to Nicole as promised to keep her.


Jackson just saved her arse and that’s what she does to return the favor. I wouldn’t talk to her ever again.
Posted by AHM21
Member since Feb 2008
24526 posts
Posted on 9/12/19 at 10:11 pm to
quote:

Cliff- I'm not sending him (Jackson) home if I was to win the veto. It's him, me and you. Nicole- Okay. That's fine. Cliff- He goes with you and me, and we fight it out. Nicole- Let's do it #BB21


Everyone explaining why they’re doing what they’re doing - then Cliff goes and says something like this and you realize they’re playing to lose.
This post was edited on 9/12/19 at 10:13 pm
Posted by BayouCatFan
Member since Jul 2008
4580 posts
Posted on 9/12/19 at 10:58 pm to
Tommy would have beaten everyone in a Final 2. There is no debating this.

Holly has zero chance with jury.

Jackson is the best player, but he and Christie dont get along so who knows if she will affect jury, so I would much rather face off against him in F2 versus Tommy.

As a previous poster said, you dont go on BB to get to F3. You go on to win the whole thing and keeping Tommy ended any chance of that.
Posted by AHM21
Member since Feb 2008
24526 posts
Posted on 9/12/19 at 11:18 pm to
quote:

Tommy would have beaten everyone in a Final 2. There is no debating this.


Sure there is. I’ve seen plenty of past winners and “all star” level past players saying it was dumb to take Tommy out tonight.

Keeping Tommy and having him in a final three situation is smarter than being eager to take Jackson to final three. I get the “Jackson is hated by a few jurors” view but he’s won all season. Taking Tommy out helped Jackson’s game as much as anyone else left in the house.

I just don’t see the current jury voting for Nicole or Cliff over Jackson. Cliff will also struggle with having been evicted. For some that disqualifies him from winning.
This post was edited on 9/12/19 at 11:21 pm
Posted by TennesseeFan25
Honolulu
Member since May 2016
8391 posts
Posted on 9/13/19 at 1:37 am to
WTF is Holly doing, this dumbass threw the HoH and agreed to throw Veto as well, and is actually doing it. What a dumb bitch
Posted by Murray
Member since Aug 2008
14421 posts
Posted on 9/13/19 at 4:32 am to
quote:

WTF is Holly doing, this dumbass threw the HoH and agreed to throw Veto as well, and is actually doing it. What a dumb bitch


She’s trying to get in good with Cliff/Nicole like Jackson did to secure a top 3 spot. I don’t think it’ll work but you never know.
Posted by msutiger
Shreveport
Member since Jul 2008
69630 posts
Posted on 9/13/19 at 7:01 am to
quote:

Everyone explaining why they’re doing what they’re doing - then Cliff goes and says something like this and you realize they’re playing to lose.


I don’t buy that he would actually go through with that plan.
Posted by LSUtigerfan22
Gonzales
Member since Mar 2007
906 posts
Posted on 9/13/19 at 7:49 am to
I must have missed something. What is this lie Jackson told regarding Tommy that he feels so bad for?
Posted by Bronson2017
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2019
1912 posts
Posted on 9/13/19 at 8:07 am to
quote:

I just don’t see the current jury voting for Nicole or Cliff over Jackson


Oh I do. You got Christie and Jessica in jury that can't stand an alpha male in everyone's ears. I will be shocked if this jury isn't bitter just like every other season. You got Christie, Jessica, Kat, and Anal Lice that can't stand Jackson.

I swear I watch this shite every season and get pissed off at the very end every single time but I will be right back here next season. CBS bastards
Posted by BayouCatFan
Member since Jul 2008
4580 posts
Posted on 9/13/19 at 8:10 am to
quote:

I just don’t see the current jury voting for Nicole or Cliff over Jackson. Cliff will also struggle with having been evicted. For some that disqualifies him from winning.



Jackson wont be getting votes from Tommy, Christie, Kat, Jessica, Nick or Sis. That's 6 right there.
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
21079 posts
Posted on 9/13/19 at 8:12 am to
quote:

What is this lie Jackson told regarding Tommy that he feels so bad for?


He overheard Tommy telling Cliff and Nicole his pitch, which was throwing the next HOH to them and then going after Jackson. Jackson then went back to Cliff and Nicole and told them Tommy was playing both sides, and came to him and told him all of that stuff but he actually was going to work with Jackson to get them out. That was the lie.

It was great game play by Jackson, and I hope it wins him the game. He deserves it.
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