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re: Big Brother 21 - Season Long Thread - Premiere June 25th

Posted on 9/11/19 at 11:29 pm to
Posted by saturday
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Posted on 9/11/19 at 11:29 pm to
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What if Jackson wins veto?


I missed that. Yeah, if tommy wins hoh next week and Jackson wins veto one would go home.
Posted by AHM21
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 9/12/19 at 2:35 am to
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Cliff told Nicole he'd rather go against Holly than Tommy, upcoming comps-wise


Cliff and Nicole debating what they need to do.

It’s gone from we need Holly out to we may be better keeping her. This was after Cliff had a long talk with Jackson.

quote:

Cliff to Nicole- It sounds like it had to do with a daughter of Christie's ex is a connection. That is very tight. If they know all of the same family members and all of that, that does concern me #BB21


I hope this ends up biting Tommy in the arse. He could keep the secret and Christie burned him anyways.

quote:

Nicole- I have always been like "disarm". We are at a point where we should win regardless. Cliff- We have to. I dont like the idea of Tommy and Michie both being in a Final 4. Nicole- I see what you are saying. "Damn, this is two really big threats" #BB21


quote:

Nicole- Maybe I'm just too caught up on the fact that I'm going to lose. Maybe I should be more gung-ho on the fact that I am going to win it. Cliff- I know. If Michie and Tommy are there, we have got to beat two people #BB21



They trust they can get a deal with Holly where she’ll throw the next HOH to them.
This post was edited on 9/12/19 at 2:36 am
Posted by AHM21
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Posted on 9/12/19 at 2:53 am to
Jackson is eavesdropping on these three in the camp comeback room:

quote:

Jackson RAN back to HOH room from his eavesdropping perch, saying 'dammit shite shite shite' to himself.. Tommy said he had an agreement with them too, and they broke it.. Cliff asked about the Tommy/Christie/Analyse/Holly agreement - Tommy admitted it was a thing, never called off


Nicole and Cliff are finding out that Holly had multiple final four deals. Nicole saying she feels less bad now about breaking their deal with Jackson and Holly since Holly “had her eggs in two baskets.”
This post was edited on 9/12/19 at 2:56 am
Posted by AHM21
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Posted on 9/12/19 at 4:34 am to
Things could change but sounds like Holly is going to jury tonight.

quote:

Nicole- Even when I said have a house meeting, "we'll do it in the morning". Why? You trying to sleep on your story and figure out what you are going to say? Cliff- If you want to go ahead and call one... Nicole- I dont want to be crazy girl #BB21


Cliff pushing for a house meeting at 3am
This post was edited on 9/12/19 at 4:42 am
Posted by msutiger
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Posted on 9/12/19 at 7:01 am to
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Posted by msutiger
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Posted on 9/12/19 at 7:13 am to
Jessica reveals who she thinks is the biggest mole... surprise, she’s still an idiot

Jessica is going to be an awful jury vote. No doubt in my mind, that she is completely incapable of thinking for herself and that a bitter Christie went into that jury house dogging Nicole.

Jessica, desperate to be part of the cool kids like she is still in high school, is gonna go along with whatever they want.
Posted by AHM21
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Posted on 9/12/19 at 7:35 am to
I’m rooting for Jackson and Holly if they keep Holly and evict Tommy.

It’s weak game play. Alliances and promises mean nothing in the final four. Jackson told Cliff he’d keep him over Holly at this point and Cliff believes him.
Posted by Bocephus229
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Posted on 9/12/19 at 8:59 am to
Jessica stated a couple times she will vote for a female to win over a male
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
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Posted on 9/12/19 at 9:46 am to
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I’m rooting for Jackson and Holly if they keep Holly and evict Tommy.

It’s weak game play.




Man I really don’t agree.

Why on Earth would you keep someone you know the entire jury loves and will likely vote for??

There is zero percent chance Holly wins. Zero. She MIGHT get Kats vote and even that is questionable. At this point you keep the people you can beat. Every single jury member loves Tommy, and almost all of them hate Jackson (and don’t love Holly by extension)

Plus, they both acknowledge they’d rather compete against her instead of Tommy for the HOH and veto anyway.


I just see no rationale for keeping Tommy whatsoever.

The whole “take out the showmance” strategy is mostly pre jury and definitely pre final four.

The final six was basically three showmances anyway.

At this point they aren’t “showmances” that can impact the game by influencing other members and groups in the house, they are just a four person alliance that have separate final twos.


Whatever, nothing this season has made much sense to me, so the two seemingly smartest people in the house making a nonsensical move is exactly what should happen.
Posted by landrywasbeast30
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 9/12/19 at 1:22 pm to
Look at things from Jessica’s point of view. I can totally see why she would think this of Nicole. I brought this up myself weeks ago about how Nicole keeps screwing over Jess.

quote:

Jessica, desperate to be part of the cool kids like she is still in high school, is gonna go along with whatever they want.


From the moment I started watching this season, this description is 100% Nicole. Jessica is just dumb. Nicole is desperate. I seriously don’t get what people see in her.
This post was edited on 9/12/19 at 2:01 pm
Posted by AHM21
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 9/12/19 at 2:31 pm to
We'll just have to disagree.

By my count there have been three HOHs that have been endurance....Holly won one, Jackson won the other two and went deep into the other.

When it comes to veto this week, you're giving Holly and Jackson a guaranteed 50/50 shot of sending one of you home. You'd go into this week knowing you'll have a shot to get Jackson on the block if you kept Tommy.

If Holly wins HOH tonight, one of Cliff or Nicole are done.



HOH tonight is endurance.
This post was edited on 9/12/19 at 2:35 pm
Posted by crimsonsaint
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 9/12/19 at 2:51 pm to
quote:

HOH tonight is endurance.


That’s good news for Holly.
Posted by DivotBreath
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Posted on 9/12/19 at 3:43 pm to
quote:

If Holly wins HOH tonight, one of Cliff or Nicole are done.


If Holly is still in the house and wins HOH, then yes, Cliff an Nicole are going on the block but that doesn’t matter. Whoever wins Veto decides who goes home. If the HOH comp is endurance tonight, then the Veto comp will probably be the days/events comp which should favor Nicole and Cliff.
Posted by Smokedawg
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 9/12/19 at 4:22 pm to
quote:

We'll just have to disagree.

By my count there have been three HOHs that have been endurance....Holly won one, Jackson won the other two and went deep into the other.

When it comes to veto this week, you're giving Holly and Jackson a guaranteed 50/50 shot of sending one of you home. You'd go into this week knowing you'll have a shot to get Jackson on the block if you kept Tommy.

If Holly wins HOH tonight, one of Cliff or Nicole are done.



HOH tonight is enduranc

Tommy will beat all left for Final 2,

Holly or Jackson gives Nicole and cliff a chance.

If tommy makes it to final 3 with cliff and Nicole, he will win the final comps, and win jury votes, Christie will ensure he has the votes, plus everyone loves him.
Posted by HHS7
Member since Jul 2017
348 posts
Posted on 9/12/19 at 6:17 pm to
Houseguests wake up and immediately start talking game. Cliff brings up to Tommy that Jackson and Holly have more detailed info on his and Christie’s past relationship than Cliff and Nicole were given. Tommy says I got into trouble for saying too much (with production. He said earlier he could talk about Christie’s ex as long as he didn’t mention one aspect). Feeds always cut when he starts to talk about it. Cliff says they should talk to the whole house. Tommy says he has nothing to hide. Nicole calls official house meeting and then fish since about 11:30am. So now we wait...
This post was edited on 9/12/19 at 6:17 pm
Posted by JETigER
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Posted on 9/12/19 at 8:21 pm to
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This post was edited on 9/12/19 at 8:22 pm
Posted by MykTide
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 9/12/19 at 8:44 pm to
Wow. Can't believe Jacksons lie worked.
Posted by Smoke7024
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 9/12/19 at 8:48 pm to
He deserves to win.
Posted by msutiger
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Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 9/12/19 at 8:48 pm to
Give that man the crown. Absolutely unreal and what a move by him
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 9/12/19 at 8:52 pm to
As not so great as the season has been, the final few weeks have been pretty solid. I thought since the begining that Tommy was playing the best game. Jackson has taken that spot from him recently. Jackson absolutely deserves to win, and props to Tommy for realizing it and respecting it. That's how this game was meant to be.
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