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re: Big Brother 20 - Season Long Thread

Posted on 9/21/18 at 4:33 am to
Posted by Bamatab
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Posted on 9/21/18 at 4:33 am to
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Seems like this is absolutely KC's game to win.

I think final 2 will be KC and Tyler, and my best guess at votes right now would be..

For Tyler:

Angella
Hay
Scottie

For KC:

JC
Sam
Fessy
Bay
RS
Brett


I could maybe seeing it swaying though, if Fessy follows Haleigh.

If Tyler doesn't have to be the one to get rid of JC.

And sam, as usual, who knows.


I could also see Brett voting for Tyler. He knows Tyler was way more of an active player for L6 than Kaycee was, and I think Angela and Haleigh could make enough good arguments to swing his vote.

And if Haleigh is really going to be an advocate for Tyler in the jury house, I could definitely see Fessy voting with her.

Tyler might be able to get Sam's vote if he reminds her that she was the only one he felt he could tell about his power app, and that he didn't even tell his showmance about it until after she was evicted. And also reminding her that he was the sole reason she wasn't the first one evicted. But I definitely can also see RS making sure Sam doesn't vote for Tyler.

With all of that said, I think Kaycee does have the inside track to this win. But I don't think it is out of the realm of possibilities to see him get votes from Angela, Haleigh, Scottie, Brett, Fessy, JC (if Kaycee is the one that evicts him), and a slim chance with Sam.
Posted by tigerpimpbot
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Posted on 9/21/18 at 5:45 am to
I hope Kaycee didn't frick up by taking Tyler. I think she cakewalks over JC and Angela
Posted by CQQ
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Posted on 9/21/18 at 6:27 am to
I'm rooting for her but there's no way that's a good game move. She had a 100% chance to beat both Angela and JC. And they both would've taken her to F2 if they won HOH.

Her odds against Tyler have to be right around 50/50 at this point.

Tyler is a super fan. He knows what happened when Cody took Derrick to F2. He knows KC is loved by pretty much everyone. If he wins this HOH, his move should be taking JC to F2. He won't be able to do it though, she's too cool and it would eat him up. Which, IMO, makes her the clear winner.

This post was edited on 9/21/18 at 6:31 am
Posted by LSU6262
Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 9/21/18 at 7:08 am to
If Tyler takes KC, would JC vote for Tyler or KC

If he takes JC, who would KC vote for
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
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Posted on 9/21/18 at 7:59 am to
I don’t think either of them will vote for him.


I also don’t think Angela is a sure vote for him. I saw a flicker of the Ice Queen last night when she found out about the Final 2.

She played it cool and said it didn’t bother her, but the guy that says he loves her had a deal with another GIRL behind her back, and never told her about it even after they’ve grown SO close, intimately, over the past few weeks. That shite has to sting. I think she always assumed they would take each other and knowing that he was planning to cut her is going to eat at her over this next week.

I bet that will be her question to him and he is going to trip all over himself trying to convince her that he wouldn’t have cut her or he can’t be sure, which will piss off Kaycee if she is a juror, and will piss off JC if he is.


I think he is in trouble.

And I also think people are offbase thinking Fess will be swayed by Hayley. If anything, seeing her knight for another dude she kind of liked at one point will piss him off and jealousy will give his vote to JC, his friend, or Kaycee, a football player he can respect as a comp beast.
This post was edited on 9/21/18 at 8:00 am
Posted by CQQ
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 9/21/18 at 8:00 am to
If he takes JC, KC would still vote for him. He won't do it though.

If it's JC vs. Tyler, who's voting for JC?
Tyler would be able to crush him in the speech/final Q&A

Posted by Tiger Voodoo
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Posted on 9/21/18 at 8:04 am to
quote:

If he takes JC, KC would still vote for him. He won't do it though.



I’m honestly not sure. Loyalty is her thing 100%.

She could have taken the easy road and kept Angela, but she didn’t. And Angela is at least is L4.

If Tyler screws her over by taking a non L4 member over their Final 2???

I don’t think she’d forgive him personally.
Posted by CQQ
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 9/21/18 at 8:10 am to
That's true. Loyal to a fault. I'm rooting for her but I'm afraid she could've locked up the game by getting Tyler out and missed it.

I think they'll take each other and both have a shot to win. A juror can ask Tyler about all his F2's and he'd be screwed. KC can say I had one F2, didn't make all these promises that Tyler did, etc.
Posted by Bamatab
Member since Jan 2013
16253 posts
Posted on 9/21/18 at 8:35 am to
Here is what Dan Gheesling tweeted last night about how the cutthroat style of game play is being phased out, and from now on winners will have to play nice in order to win. This sucks, but he is right. They shortened the jury speeches, and the houseguests have got "younger" (I think he probably means more immature). So until they change the jury format, the days of seeing a Dan or Dr. Will type of player win are probably over.

Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 9/21/18 at 9:06 am to
I absolutely HATE how Big Brother handles the jury vote. The finalists barely get a chance to sell their gameplay to the jury, while the jury mostly asks softball, pre-screened questions.
Posted by oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
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Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 9/21/18 at 9:11 am to
Yeah, the finale is usually pretty underwhelming. There is so much more that could make it interesting. A 2 hour finale would probably get the job done.

I would love to hear more jury questions, more time for finalist to have a chance to speak, and would love to hear more thoughts from the non jury evicted house guest.
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
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Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 9/21/18 at 9:20 am to
I think the live part of it hurts it too.

Survivor records it so I’d imagine the jurors get plenty of time to talk back and forth with the finalists and vice versa. Then they just edit it down to what we need to see and to fit for time restraints. That’s the biggest thing. Shouldn’t be limited by time on a live show.


Just record it and then do the reveal and reunion part live.
Posted by Dirtysouthdeacon
Dirtysouth
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 9/21/18 at 9:30 am to
I could see recording it, but Survivor is a heavily produced show with a big time budget and a $1M prize. At the end of the day, BB is a fun summer show which serves to fill three time slots per week on a low budget. Hence the quick wrap up at the end. IMHO
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 9/21/18 at 9:38 am to
I think letting jury members watch the live feeds would be a huge improvement.
Posted by CQQ
Member since Feb 2006
17048 posts
Posted on 9/21/18 at 9:51 am to
That seems like a no brainer
Posted by LSU6262
Member since Jun 2008
8033 posts
Posted on 9/21/18 at 9:53 am to
Survivor also benefits in having jury members at every tribal council. It's a big part of why there are hardly any bitter jury votes.

On big brother, it is an issue though
Posted by Bamatab
Member since Jan 2013
16253 posts
Posted on 9/21/18 at 11:00 am to
They definitely need to do something with how they handle the jury votes. The pre-recorded jury segments would be very helpful, as would letting them watch the live feeds. And try and get more fans of the game instead of recruiting younger people who never watched the show, and aren't used to not getting what they want.

Hell, I'd be will for them to scrap they jury house all together, and let past winners or even just former house guests make up the jury. Pleading your case to former players, who aren't going to be bitter, would be a lot easier.

But whatever they do, they need to do it next year. This was the best season in a very long time, and it wasn't because Kaycee glided along not pissing people off. It was a great season because of L6's willingness to blind side and manipulate people. If the jury rewards Kaycee based on the fact that she didn't piss them off, and after the result of last season, then following season are going to be boring as all get out.
This post was edited on 9/21/18 at 11:13 am
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 9/21/18 at 11:22 am to
They do need to also get back to casting more than just one token older player. Dan's first season was one of the best, and Jerry and Reny added a lot to that fact.
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
52282 posts
Posted on 9/21/18 at 11:24 am to
BTW I love that Jerry still texts Dan random pictures of himself today
Posted by tigerpimpbot
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Member since Nov 2011
69083 posts
Posted on 9/21/18 at 11:38 am to
quote:

the houseguests have got "younger"


Snowflake millennials ruining BB
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