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re: Big Brother 19 - Season Long Thread

Posted on 9/15/17 at 2:40 pm to
Posted by AstroCajun
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Posted on 9/15/17 at 2:40 pm to
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Posted by smkspy
Da filthy nasty dirty South; BR, LA
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Posted on 9/15/17 at 2:47 pm to
Spot on
Posted by DivotBreath
On the course
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 9/15/17 at 3:02 pm to
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Not because of Production advantages.


So the fact that Raven was photographed with Paul twice before Big Brother doesn't concern you? It has been reported that Paul followed her on social media until May when he abruptly stopped following her account just 5 weeks before entering the house. This is a pre-existing alliance that Production allowed him to start the game with and didn't disclose to the public or the players.

While there are other suspicious actions that point towards Production influencing the game in Paul's favor, there is no way that anyone can seriously doubt that Production not only tipped Paul off in advance about the competition race that Xmas "won", but Production also influenced the game by medically clearing Xmas to compete in a foot race when she had a lame foot (2 weeks ago when she walked up to the starting line on crutches!). He knew it was a competition where the other players could drop out or false start in order so he could manipulate them. True, he still worked them to do just what he wanted, but that whole scenario was just too damn convenient at that time.

Anyone that claims Production did not manipulate this game in Paul's favor is as delusional as Raven thinking she was a puppet-master in the game.

On a side note, who doesn't think Raven wouldn't have pushed that button for $25k if Kevin hadn't beaten her to it? They were going to guarantee Paul entered the game and she would have used her medical needs as an excuse that everyone would have foregivin.
Posted by AHM21
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Posted on 9/15/17 at 3:14 pm to
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Christmas shifts a little, wraps herself around Paul, & goes back to sleep. #friendsdothat #BB19






This post was edited on 9/15/17 at 3:38 pm
Posted by iluvdatiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 9/15/17 at 4:03 pm to
I am still casting my votes for Kevin. He has played with the most integrity. I saw this article today on fb and it made me think of Kevin. More ppl should have integrity on this earth. LINK
Posted by Bottom9
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Posted on 9/15/17 at 4:45 pm to
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I am still casting my votes for Kevin. He has played with the most integrity. I saw this article today on fb and it made me think of Kevin. More ppl should have integrity on this earth. LINK



Yeah. He definitely had a lot of integrity when he told Paul and the house about Cody's daughter after Cody was trying to help him out because Kevin was missing his kids. Definitely integrity in how the house then proceeded to bash Cody for having a daughter.
This post was edited on 9/15/17 at 5:23 pm
Posted by JFord5
Member since Jul 2017
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Posted on 9/15/17 at 4:57 pm to
How could they not be star struck when he got to give out friendship bracelets which guaranteed 8 people safety?? How is that not production's interference in guaranteeing that Paul stays in the game for a while???
Posted by AHM21
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 9/15/17 at 6:23 pm to
That was a week after Kevin assisted Paul in putting Vaseline on the doorknobs leading to Jess and Cody's room. He's a good guy but he's been a prick at times.
Posted by prostyleoffensetime
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Posted on 9/15/17 at 7:06 pm to
These people were raised in a fricking barn. Didn't pour the lady's drink first, then starts drinking before all the glasses are poured.
Posted by JG77056
Vegas baby, Vegas
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12077 posts
Posted on 9/15/17 at 7:27 pm to
There isn't a lady left in the house
Posted by prostyleoffensetime
Mississippi
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Posted on 9/15/17 at 7:35 pm to
Point taken
Posted by TIGERSTORM
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Member since Feb 2009
4834 posts
Posted on 9/15/17 at 7:38 pm to
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How could they not be star struck when he got to give out friendship bracelets which guaranteed 8 people safety?? How is that not production's interference in guaranteeing that Paul stays in the game for a while???


I mean, yeah that's an advantage. However, he also pissed off the people he didn't give safety too.
Posted by Brettesaurus Rex
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 9/15/17 at 7:42 pm to
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he game would be the exact same right now even if Paul didnt get the safety. He was easily staying and was more of a sure thing to stay than Xmas was that 1st week. Nothing would be different.

No way in hell. Chance to get the vet out week 1 would have been too much.


But...the house also voted Jillian out over a healthy Xmas...so....maybe they would have still been too dumb to do so.
Posted by Brettesaurus Rex
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2009
38261 posts
Posted on 9/15/17 at 7:48 pm to
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If Paul wins 8-1 or 9-0 like I think this will be the most statistically dominated season by 1 houseguest. Would have won the most total comps in a season, tie for most Vetos in a season,tie for most HOHs in a season. Never would have been nominated(not even at F3 like Derrick technically was). Hate him all you want but I would put him #3 all time behind Will and Dan.

Even if he does, there's always going to be an asterisk. 3 weeks of guaranteed safety is in insane advantage even if he wasn't a vet. Being the only vet a major advantage on its own. Those things combined the game has basically been handed to him on a silver platter.
Posted by Brettesaurus Rex
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2009
38261 posts
Posted on 9/15/17 at 7:50 pm to
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Again, Josh was absolutely central to Paul's plan. I don't think Paul runs roughshod if Josh doesn't play his role so well.

Completely agree. If Jessica uses the veto and guarantees Josh goes home instead of Ramses getting the blindside, it's a completely different game. That was Cody/Jess' last chance too stay in the game and that loss put them behind the 8 ball the entire rest of the game until they were both out.
Posted by smkspy
Da filthy nasty dirty South; BR, LA
Member since Jul 2013
915 posts
Posted on 9/15/17 at 7:59 pm to
The diary room bit, Cody is GOAT this season.

And the vindication of Dominique, too bad she just didn't make a real argument instead of going the god route.

Posted by DoUrden
UnderDark
Member since Oct 2011
26164 posts
Posted on 9/15/17 at 8:00 pm to
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3 weeks of guaranteed


4 weeks if you count the week he came into the game.
Posted by LSU6262
Member since Jun 2008
8033 posts
Posted on 9/15/17 at 8:36 pm to
I refuse to watch the bullshite scripted memory episode that aired tonight.

Did they give Jody a good edit? Was it Paul heavy?
Posted by smkspy
Da filthy nasty dirty South; BR, LA
Member since Jul 2013
915 posts
Posted on 9/15/17 at 8:48 pm to
Pretty good Jody edit. Surprisingly.

I'd say the Paul edit was just kinda neutral, not too good, bit not too bad either.

Defintiely a bad Kevin edit.

Best was the segment of crying in the diary room, though they should have saved cody's comment for dead last. If you taped it, watch the Kevin part at the beginning then yoh fast foward to near the end for the DR part.

Showed a lot of old footage, really.
Posted by TIGERSTORM
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Member since Feb 2009
4834 posts
Posted on 9/15/17 at 9:56 pm to
Even with the help Paul has had this season what he has done has been impressive. He has controlled the entire season even when Jess was hoh he controlled who went home. He controlled who won hohs and vetos. He made Josh and Christmas cast hoh votes that hurt their game. He convinced Josh to get into a fake fight that only helped Paul's game after Jason went home.

The reason Paul's game may look bad (but shouldn't) is that he had no real competition. In season 2 Will had his entire alliance voted out before he really made any moves. In Dan's second season he had the 24 hours of solitude before the speech where he buried his game and started manipulating people. Derick had a very easy run and so has Paul. If Paul had something in front of him that he had to overcome more people would be on his side.
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