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re: Big Brother 19 - Season Long Thread

Posted on 9/15/17 at 12:14 pm to
Posted by mistaken4193
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Posted on 9/15/17 at 12:14 pm to
The votes would have been the same week 1, people were more mad he tried to put up Paul than they were about him putting up Xmas. He would have won HOH wk 2(and formed AMF with Alex) and Alex would have won week 3. Where would he have went home and where would it be different??
This post was edited on 9/15/17 at 12:16 pm
Posted by smkspy
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Posted on 9/15/17 at 12:28 pm to
They were more mad that cody didn't consult with them over his plan to nominate Paul, then the grinch who was also in the alliance just further made them mad.

Cody could have easily convinced them that keeping the sole vet who made it to #2 last season should be the first to go. It wouldn't have been that hard of a sell.

But 3 weeks of not even being an option completely took him off everyone's radar and allowed him the freedom to pitch and work people without zero consequences.
Posted by mistaken4193
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Posted on 9/15/17 at 12:38 pm to
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Cody could have easily convinced them that keeping the sole vet who made it to #2 last season should be the first to go. It wouldn't have been that hard of a sell. 


Wouldnt have happened, Pauls only advantage that changed the game IMO is that people were StarStruck,no way they voted him out. Everyone was StarStruck by Paul except Cody...even Jessica was in the beginning.
Posted by AHM21
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Posted on 9/15/17 at 12:46 pm to
Which shows how little they all knew about the show. The casuals love Paul and think he's all about that friendship bullshite. There's a reason he lost to a vet. Nicole wasn't a good player and yet she found a way to a) get Paul to take her to final two and b) beat him.

And yet here we sit at final three with two idiots going up against a vet who has now won three straight comps (HOH, veto, HOH) and now leads all HGs in comp wins.

If I'm being honest I don't see any way that either Josh or Christmas win. The only chance Josh has is if Christmas takes him. All Paul has to do with Josh is say I decided that he would make final three because I controlled him and he always did what I said. I mentored him as much as Christmas.

Everyone beats Christmas. Even Raven had she made it to the end. Christmas' presence in season 19 fricked up the game as much as Paul did. The look on their faces in jury when Jason told them Christmas won a racing comp was priceless.
This post was edited on 9/15/17 at 12:48 pm
Posted by mistaken4193
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Posted on 9/15/17 at 12:49 pm to
He didnt lose because he took Nicole, he lost because he was unnecessarily an a-hole to Natalie her last week. If he doesnt do that he wins against either.
Posted by AHM21
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Posted on 9/15/17 at 12:50 pm to
I call bullshite. Nicole and James did hardly anything throughout the game. Nicole had all the females in the house on her side and she had won an HOH and veto along the way.

Season 18 James was horrible and useless. He was trying too hard to be like the season 17 version and turned out to be disappointing. All he did all season was follow Natalie around and catch himself a restraining order for all his efforts.
This post was edited on 9/15/17 at 12:51 pm
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
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Posted on 9/15/17 at 12:57 pm to
Paul only lost because he called Meech a count
Posted by mistaken4193
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Posted on 9/15/17 at 1:00 pm to
If Paul wins 8-1 or 9-0 like I think this will be the most statistically dominated season by 1 houseguest. Would have won the most total comps in a season, tie for most Vetos in a season,tie for most HOHs in a season. Never would have been nominated(not even at F3 like Derrick technically was). Hate him all you want but I would put him #3 all time behind Will and Dan.

He would hold the record for Comp wins, Days in the house,and most Jury votes recieved all time combined. Would be only the 2nd person to make F2 twice. Would have done it 1 season as a frontrunner and 1 season as an Underdog.
This post was edited on 9/15/17 at 1:01 pm
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
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Posted on 9/15/17 at 1:13 pm to
quote:

Wouldnt have happened, Pauls only advantage that changed the game IMO is that people were StarStruck,no way they voted him out. Everyone was StarStruck by Paul except Cody...even Jessica was in the beginning.



I think you are MISTAKEN.

Alex and Jason were 100% on board with Cody because Cody was basically risking his whole game to protect them.

It wasn't his main motivation, getting Paul out was, but they gained the most by Cody making the big move to take out the vet.

Paul didn't really have a relationship with Alex and Jason until later. And that was really just because Alex was a dumb count that hated Jess more than she liked Cody, and they did respect each other the first few weeks.

It wasn't until the Ramses eviction that Paul had pulled them in, and that was primarily because Alex wanted to screw Jess more than anything.


That was the week that everything was settled. Josh was pulled in, and there was multiple weeks for that whole side of the house to align against Jody.

Again, Josh was absolutely central to Paul's plan. I don't think Paul runs roughshod if Josh doesn't play his role so well.

It's why I think he has a valid argument to jury.
This post was edited on 9/15/17 at 1:18 pm
Posted by mistaken4193
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Posted on 9/15/17 at 1:16 pm to
Alex and Jason voted against Xmas and Paul anyways week 1?? Alex realized the whole house was against Cody and decided to join Paul week 2. She already hated the showmances

Mark, Elena, Matt, Raven,Josh, Xmas,Dom, and Kevin 100% vote for Paul to stay.

This post was edited on 9/15/17 at 1:19 pm
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
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Posted on 9/15/17 at 1:18 pm to
Dude we're talking about what happens if Paul doesn't have three WEEKS of safety.

Alex and Jason could have more seriously considered working with Jody those later weeks if they could have had a realistic shite to take out Paul. But they didn't.

That is production interference


Plus Cody would have had a much better chance at keeping Mark and Elena with them if they knew Paul wasn't untouchable for a month.
This post was edited on 9/15/17 at 1:20 pm
Posted by mistaken4193
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Posted on 9/15/17 at 1:20 pm to
Nothing would be different the game would have played out the exact same. Paul wins week 2 HOH,evicts Cody and that just leaves Jessica. Aint no way in hell Alex was working with just Jessica.

Mark and Elena were the biggest fricking Paul minions out there until like week 5 or 6
This post was edited on 9/15/17 at 1:23 pm
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
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Posted on 9/15/17 at 1:21 pm to
quote:

mistaken4193



MISTAKEN.




Not saying for sure he isn't still there at the end, but there would have absolutely been more room for the other side to play. That isn't debatable.


Hell, even Josh was considering going with Jody on the Jillian vote. That was the turning point.

Then Paul saving Josh over Ramses and the argument with Jody after that was what led to Paul turning Josh into his Bulldog.

It was far from certain week 1 that Paul had them all locked up.
This post was edited on 9/15/17 at 2:06 pm
Posted by mistaken4193
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Posted on 9/15/17 at 1:27 pm to
Josh was bullshitting Jody. He was a minion from the moment Paul walked in the door.

I will say it until the end of time, Paul dominated this season because the others were starstruck.. Not because of Production advantages.
This post was edited on 9/15/17 at 1:28 pm
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
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Posted on 9/15/17 at 1:51 pm to
You are mistaken



Yes the groupie mentality helped Paul. The immunity from the first four evictions helped more.

That month turned the groupies into his cult.
This post was edited on 9/15/17 at 1:54 pm
Posted by djsdawg
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Posted on 9/15/17 at 1:58 pm to
They would have been less start struck had Paul not been guaranteed safety for a month.
Posted by crimsonsaint
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 9/15/17 at 2:03 pm to
quote:

Everyone was StarStruck by Paul


Which is retarded. He's famous for losing a game. But he's not all that famous. You didn't hear shite about him once his season was over.
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
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Posted on 9/15/17 at 2:07 pm to


Right? It's not like he's some power player in Hollywood. He couldn't even turn his own exposure on the show into anything more than fan tours like any other reality cast member. WTF was he going to do for them other than maybe build up their Twitter followers?? I don't understand that generation at all

He isn't even rich. He probably lives in some studio in The Valley
This post was edited on 9/15/17 at 2:10 pm
Posted by AHM21
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Posted on 9/15/17 at 2:11 pm to
His parents are rich. He's a spoiled little shite.
Posted by Bottom9
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Posted on 9/15/17 at 2:19 pm to
Just checking in to say that I have cast my 20 votes for AFP for Cody for the second day in a row. Everyone should too.

Cody for AFP!!
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