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re: Big Brother 19 - Season Long Thread

Posted on 8/15/17 at 1:59 pm to
Posted by The Spleen
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Posted on 8/15/17 at 1:59 pm to
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he legit won a HOH



Well not really. Everyone else was giving him their tokens so he could win.
Posted by VanRIch
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Posted on 8/15/17 at 2:01 pm to
Yup
Posted by AHM21
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Posted on 8/15/17 at 2:03 pm to
Which was his idea. Go after casting and production for putting a bunch of sheep in the game but don't fault Paul for being able to control the house.
This post was edited on 8/15/17 at 2:03 pm
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 8/15/17 at 2:07 pm to
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Well not really. Everyone else was giving him their tokens so he could win.


That's why derrick and others are light years ahead of paul as a gameplayer. While derrick, dan, etc did have the power to coerce and get peopel to do what they wanted, it was never as gifted and handed to them on a platter like these people do with paul. And I never thought Id' see the day after amanda's season in 15, but yet here we are...any mention of someone coming after paul results in an immediate sprint to paul to let him know. AT least in Amanda's season everyone hated her, they were just scared of rockign the boat and being the next target so they fell in line. But these people don't even have the backbone to attempt to go against paul, and the rare few who do put those thoughts in the air are instantly the next target.

I mean how is this even enjoyable or entertaining if we already know who is going home each week?
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 8/15/17 at 2:08 pm to
Oh I think Paul has played a great game this season. I do think he got a huge boost from production, and his lone HOH win wasn't that impressive though. But he also hasn't needed to win many HOH's because everyone except Jess and Cody has done what he's told them to do.
Posted by ISEN_AG
ThunderWolf Manor
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 8/15/17 at 2:16 pm to
quote:

He won an HOH

Not really. The morons of the house gave him all their tickets.
Posted by rockiee
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Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 8/15/17 at 2:32 pm to
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Then who deserves to win?


Really no one at this point but that will change
This post was edited on 8/15/17 at 2:37 pm
Posted by rockiee
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Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 8/15/17 at 2:35 pm to
quote:

but don't fault Paul for being able to control the house.


Many don't, they are just explaining why they give him less credit. Either way if the show ended today then Paul should win.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 8/15/17 at 2:37 pm to
Right now, I'd rank it...

1. Paul
2. Cody
3. Alex
4. Mark
5. Jason
6. Josh

The rest haven't done shite, so I won't rank them.
Posted by AHM21
Member since Feb 2008
32009 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 2:39 pm to
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Oh I think Paul has played a great game this season. I do think he got a huge boost from production, and his lone HOH win wasn't that impressive though. But he also hasn't needed to win many HOH's because everyone except Jess and Cody has done what he's told them to do.


He has two HOH's and a veto. I believe 2/3 of the way through this season he's leading the house in comp wins and is tied with Alex for the most HOH's.
Posted by smkspy
Da filthy nasty dirty South; BR, LA
Member since Jul 2013
915 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 2:53 pm to
Isn't that a bit of the same thing production casting a bunch of sheepeople only there to either get fame or were paul fans to begin with, exactly so Paul can control them?

Hell, Paul even once said they cast Cody specifically to be the anti-paul. The villain for everyone to hate and make Paul look the good guy. From the in-house perspective it worked, little does he know outside of the house it's viewed differently.

But I've given Paul credit where credit is due before in this thread. It's just his tactics once cody re-entered the house that has revealed how much a pos he really is.
This post was edited on 8/15/17 at 2:55 pm
Posted by VanRIch
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Posted on 8/15/17 at 3:14 pm to
I'll be honest, my ability to fairly rank them is clouded by my intense dislike for most of them. I tried watching some feeds today, and it's just them all again talking shite about the others like a locker room full of high school girls. It's seriously disgusting. I don't gossip, and I don't talk about people like that in my real life and it's a characteristic that is one of my least favorite, so admittedly it's hard to separate it as entertainment/game play. With all that said, I still don't believe Paul is a top player. Show me what he can do with a legit cast, then we'll talk.
This post was edited on 8/15/17 at 3:16 pm
Posted by VermilionTiger
Member since Dec 2012
39214 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 3:21 pm to
quote:

He has two HOH's and a veto. I believe 2/3 of the way through this season he's leading the house in comp wins and is tied with Alex for the most HOH's.


His dogs threw him the first HOH

Paul isn't a good player. He's a loud mouth that was gifted 2 great things:

1. 3 weeks of immunity + not being able to get evicted pre-week 1 eviction. He was essentially safe for the first 4 evictions

2. He was able to have a built in advantage of granting 8 people immunity. What a load of crap that was.
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
52282 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 3:28 pm to
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Paul isn't a good player. He's a loud mouth that was gifted 2 great things:
what he achieved last year proves you wrong
This post was edited on 8/15/17 at 3:47 pm
Posted by VanRIch
Wherever
Member since Sep 2007
11767 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 3:45 pm to
Anyone watching the feeds? Josh just broke in on Paul and Mark talking and Paul kinda got pissed at Josh and walked out. Anyone know what that was about? It seemed like there was already something that may have happened that caused his reaction. I'm clinging to the hope that there's cracks in the family.
Posted by AHM21
Member since Feb 2008
32009 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 3:51 pm to
quote:

Paul isn't a good player. He's a loud mouth that was gifted 2 great things:



This just isn't accurate. He has received more help than any individual player in 19 seasons of the show and I won't deny that.

But in this game if you make it to the final two and win the final HOH, you're at very least a "good" player. He's annoying and a loud mouth. Of the 16 from season eighteen, Paul would be way down the list of people I'd want to see get a second chance.

I was the one making the argument a month ago that the comps were being manipulated in his favor. You'll never hear me compare him to Will, Dan or Derrick but he does deserve credit for taking three weeks safety and turning it into running the house. Production can set you up to succeed but his execution and game play have been solid.
This post was edited on 8/15/17 at 3:53 pm
Posted by VanRIch
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Member since Sep 2007
11767 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 3:53 pm to
Jason and Alex going at it with Cody right now.
Posted by VermilionTiger
Member since Dec 2012
39214 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 3:55 pm to


The only reason he got to the final 2 was because his biggest ally was put back into the house twice

He's a benefactor of the most ridiculous shite BB has done. Without Victor getting 3 shots to play the game, without 4 weeks (3 + the pre week 1 eviction) of safety, and the friendship bracelets, he is home after week 7 in BB18 and home after week 1 in BB19
Posted by AHM21
Member since Feb 2008
32009 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 3:55 pm to
Oh fricking awesome. 5 vs 1
Posted by VanRIch
Wherever
Member since Sep 2007
11767 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 3:56 pm to
This is ridiculous, these people are just fricking mean.
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