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re: Big Brother 18 - Season Long Thread (SPOILERS)
Posted on 7/27/16 at 11:20 am to WG_Dawg
Posted on 7/27/16 at 11:20 am to WG_Dawg
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I feel like he does it at completely random times.
Hey can you hand me a napkin? Thanks..friendship. Wanna go to the hammock? Cool, friendship.
I feel like he wants it to catch on like some sort of national catchphrase but it's jsut ridiculously annoying, kinda like paul himself.
That's what it is. It's just a phrase he throws out.
He does the same thing with "you're boy" & "pissed", usually together. For instance, "You're boy just took a dump...pissed!".
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Posted on 7/27/16 at 11:30 am to WG_Dawg
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feel like he wants it to catch on like some sort of national catchphrase but it's jsut ridiculously annoying, kinda like paul himself.
Oh there is no doubt he is trying and thinking it has become some big hashtag movement. I don't do Twitter so I hope to God that it hasn't
Posted on 7/27/16 at 11:31 am to Bamatab
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He does the same thing with "you're boy" & "pissed", usually together. For instance, "You're boy just took a dump...pissed!".
I have stare fast forwarding a lot when he is on screen, so I hadn't even noticed that. What a complete nerd
Posted on 7/27/16 at 11:33 am to Tiger Voodoo
Tonight, everyone take a shot whenever Paul and Victor say "ya boy" during the CBS show.
Posted on 7/27/16 at 11:35 am to Cobrasize
LOL someone in here would get banned for drunk post 
Posted on 7/27/16 at 11:35 am to Cobrasize
Tonight,
Frank stays in the house!
Frank stays in the house!
Posted on 7/27/16 at 11:37 am to slapahoe
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Tonight, Frank stays in the house!
Tonight he'll stay, but tomorrow he's out the door unless something crazy happens.
Posted on 7/27/16 at 11:39 am to Weagle25
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quote: Is the show bound by gameshow laws?
I I googled and it seems like they are. This isn't from a reliable source but they seem to know what they're talking about: quote: We see a lot of comments about production manipulation (especially regarding the coup d'état, Pandora's Box, the secret power in BBCan3, etc.) I think some people misunderstand these things. Reality shows that give out a prize have to abide by game show laws, which are pretty strict and are set in place so that every person participating has a fair shot to win the prize. These laws were set in place after the quiz show scandals of the 50s (of which the film Quiz Show is based). On each one of these shows there are lawyers who review and advise the legality of every game element. Almost all of the time, the elements and timing of the game are decided before the contestants even start to play the game. Game-changing powers that are determined by public vote are written into the format of that season with a specific week before houseguests even step into the house. Even very minor things are randomized including the order in which houseguests stand during competitions to ensure fairness. Production manipulation most likely occurs in two ways (1) by getting contestants to infer things and thereby influencing their decisions, and (2) by editing houseguests to appear favorable to the public so they have a higher probably to receive a power if voted on later in the game. They also probably have the option to change or remove an element at their discretion if it's affecting the outcome of the show negatively or not working out (making America MVP in Season 15, dropping the Takeovers). These choices are checked by the lawyers for the show to make sure that they are not affecting the 'fairness' of the game. A good example of this was in Season 8 when Jen was penalized for breaking rules and was told she could not compete in the next week's competitions. This was seen as unfair to Jameka who was against her on the block and could compete in those challenges, giving houseguests a reason to keep Jen. The punishment was then reversed and changed to a penalty vote for Jen. All of this being said, lots of bullshite happens that's not fair (Hamster relationship questions) but a lot of things we complain about, like the events of BBCAN 3, are laid out before the game takes its course.
I don't know if I would give much weight to that source. These players are recruited, so there is nothing random about the selection process. The fact that veteran players, who have an advantage based on prior experience, compete against rookie players is inherently unfair. The players are paid a stipend, so the "grand prize" is not the only money at stake and it is not a pure game show in that regard. The diary room sessions, even if taped and subject to review by some outside source, can be used to provide players information just by the questions asked or the manner in which they are asked (which former players have seemed to confirm in the past). And finally, the outcome of the game is anything but fair and random . . . the jury members often base their votes on just about everything except who played the best game. Like other reality TV, this stuff is more scripted than real.
As stated in your post, that may not be a reliable source. However, I would not doubt if that source was an employee of CBS.
Posted on 7/27/16 at 12:50 pm to DivotBreath
Posted on 7/27/16 at 12:51 pm to DivotBreath
Natalie did not know what a back door was but she is a leading candidate for America's favorite player.
This means Big Brother is not a game show.
This means Big Brother is not a game show.
Posted on 7/27/16 at 1:00 pm to JETigER
Huh? those things have nothing to do with each other.
Posted on 7/27/16 at 1:00 pm to DivotBreath
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These players are recruited, so there is nothing random about the selection process.
That's a non factor. Survivor and Amazing race are subject to game show laws and they are not always selected randomly.
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The fact that veteran players, who have an advantage based on prior experience, compete against rookie players is inherently unfair
Just because they have an advantage doesn't mean it makes it unfair. You could also make the argument that it gives them a disadvantage because it's 4 v. 12 in the beginning.
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The players are paid a stipend, so the "grand prize" is not the only money at stake and it is not a pure game show in that regard.
There is still a cash prize on TV though. I don't think the stipend changes anything.
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The diary room sessions, even if taped and subject to review by some outside source, can be used to provide players information just by the questions asked or the manner in which they are asked (which former players have seemed to confirm in the past).
Well that's more of a way to get around the game show laws. I still don't think they can directly tell them anything. They have to give clues by focusing questions in one direction or another to lead them to the right path of thinking.
Basically they have to give the information in a way where it's hard to prove they were trying to give them information
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And finally, the outcome of the game is anything but fair and random . . . the jury members often base their votes on just about everything except who played the best game
What the jury members base their vote off of has absolutely nothing to do with the game show laws. That I know.
This post was edited on 7/27/16 at 1:03 pm
Posted on 7/27/16 at 1:01 pm to JETigER
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Natalie did not know what a back door was but she is a leading candidate for America's favorite player.
This means Big Brother is not a game show.
You're going to have to walk me through that logic because I'm not seeing any there
Posted on 7/27/16 at 1:23 pm to Weagle25
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What the jury members base their vote off of has absolutely nothing to do with the game show laws. That I know
That's pretty much proving my point. If the entire basis for applying the "game show laws" is to make the outcome fair to all the players, the. There is no reason to apply the game show laws when the final outcome -- the prize money that is worth protecting by the principle of fairness-- is neither determined by production nor based on any identifiable factor that the game show laws could protect.
If they do actually apply the "game show laws" then it is just an exercise in futility. To each their own opinion, but I don't buy it as a game show. I have watched every season (yes, that sounds pitiful in and of itself!) and there have just been too many instances of convenient timing to save a player that is probably driving the ratings.
Posted on 7/27/16 at 1:29 pm to JETigER
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America's favorite player
BB should award a least favorite player as well.
I can see Julie now "America voted........Paul.....you are the least favorite player"
Posted on 7/27/16 at 1:31 pm to DivotBreath
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there have just been too many instances of convenient timing to save a player that is probably driving the ratings.
There's no way that a lot of those comps where you have to choose the right answer based on america's vote aren't fixed.
Posted on 7/27/16 at 1:35 pm to lsunurse
I really think that if James doesn't win Americas favorite player, he is going to go into a deep depression
They really should award a least favorite player. It should be a trophy with a jack-arse on the top
They really should award a least favorite player. It should be a trophy with a jack-arse on the top
Posted on 7/27/16 at 1:47 pm to DivotBreath
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That's pretty much proving my point. If the entire basis for applying the "game show laws" is to make the outcome fair to all the players, the. There is no reason to apply the game show laws when the final outcome -- the prize money that is worth protecting by the principle of fairness-- is neither determined by production nor based on any identifiable factor that the game show laws could protect.
You act like the jury members picking who wins makes the game unfair. It doesn't. You know who's picking the winner. It plays into your strategy of who you want to put in jury. That's fair and part of the rules. Now what we feel the jury members should do and the intent of having them pick is has always been up for discussion but it has nothing to do with the fairness of the game.
I'm pretty sure BB does fall under the game show laws. From the stuff I read it seems what puts you under those laws are any contest (of any sort) aired on TV where a cash prize is awarded to the winner.
Now whether they skirt the rules a little bit is up for debate but it's not like they can just decide to do whatever they want.
This post was edited on 7/27/16 at 1:51 pm
Posted on 7/27/16 at 1:55 pm to Weagle25
Has anyone found a single flaw with Natalie?
She's extremely hot. She's nice to everybody. Not stuck up. Very down to earth. She's not dumb. She'd actually go for a guy like James. She cooks. She cleans. Great personality.
There has to be SOMETHING wrong with her...
She's extremely hot. She's nice to everybody. Not stuck up. Very down to earth. She's not dumb. She'd actually go for a guy like James. She cooks. She cleans. Great personality.
There has to be SOMETHING wrong with her...
This post was edited on 7/27/16 at 1:56 pm
Posted on 7/27/16 at 1:59 pm to Weagle25
She is a 10 in my book but luckily we don't have the same requirements because
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She'd actually go for a guy like James.
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