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Avenger's thought/theory

Posted on 3/15/19 at 10:37 pm
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
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Posted on 3/15/19 at 10:37 pm
What if the 50% population gone was just a trick of the reality stone and the other stones enhanced it's power to the universe. Thanos has to keep it going or lose this new reality. Maybe Thanos' idea was to manipulate the minds of the "living" to do better with their resources.

So there is no time jump needed. They just need to find Thanos and defeat him.

Power stone to enhance the stone
Mind to manipulate the people
Soul stone to solidify the sadness
Space to extend the vastness of the spell
Reality stone to make the spell
Time stone for duration
This post was edited on 3/15/19 at 10:40 pm
Posted by jlovel7
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 3/15/19 at 10:46 pm to
I think the answer to your question is sort of. I mean he needs the reality stone to accomplish his mission along with all of the other stones. So of course part of the snap involves the use of the reality stone.
Posted by SLafourche07
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 3/15/19 at 10:55 pm to
I was thinking of the possibilty that the half that we saw disappear actually saw the others disappear.


So there are two different realities with each thinking the other half are dead.


Sort of what you're thinking but not exactly.
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22168 posts
Posted on 3/15/19 at 11:00 pm to
That would be a great addition to the theory I just had. It explains what happened with the other people.

So we could jump between the two "realities" and find them both fighting Thanos in their own way.
This post was edited on 3/15/19 at 11:03 pm
Posted by LSUTyger76
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2007
737 posts
Posted on 3/15/19 at 11:25 pm to
One thing that bugs me about the snap is that Thanos had already been committing genocide across the galaxy for at least 20 years. So in theory there are worlds that only had 50% of their population pre-snap. Does that mean half of the 50% were eliminated, therefore leaving some worlds with 1/4th of their population? Doesn't seem balanced to me....
Posted by BranchDawg
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Posted on 3/15/19 at 11:29 pm to
I seem to remember the Russos saying that he needed all six stones because the snap required such an extreme amount of power that only all six stones combined could do it. Not because each stone's specific ability was part of a concoction, more about the raw power.

Remember, every stone is an infinite source of energy. The tesseract has done everything from power weapons, to hypnotize people to give Carol Danvers lazer arms. And it's the damn SPACE stone
Posted by LSUTyger76
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2007
737 posts
Posted on 3/15/19 at 11:37 pm to
I think the hypnotizing was done by the Mind Stone in Loki's staff. It was pretty confusing at first because it was blue until they extracted it for Vison.
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22168 posts
Posted on 3/16/19 at 12:49 am to
Well they do what the wielder wants. So if he wanted to say for instance change everyones mind in the universe and use the Mind stone for his primary spell, the other stones would use their powers to enhance it.
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
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Posted on 3/16/19 at 8:56 am to
quote:

Maybe Thanos' idea was to manipulate the minds of the "living" to do better with their resources.


By making them think they suddenly had twice as much as they did?
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22168 posts
Posted on 3/16/19 at 9:05 am to
Well I mean that was his logic when he killed the other planets population.
Posted by PawnMaster
Down Yonder
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 3/16/19 at 9:30 am to
quote:

Well I mean that was his logic when he killed the other planets population


I think you may be reading too far into it. I was under the impression he wiped out half the population so that there would be enough resources for everyone, not to teach them a lesson.
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22168 posts
Posted on 3/16/19 at 9:33 am to
But he was "morally" doing it for the "right" reason in his mind.
Posted by stateofplay
Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 3/16/19 at 10:28 am to
quote:

I was thinking of the possibilty that the half that we saw disappear actually saw the others disappear. 


So there are two different realities with each thinking the other half are dead. 


Sort of what you're thinking but not exactly.



Wow if this is what happened it would be cool as f@#k. That way the new Avengers would be contributing to the fight from the beginning rather than waiting for the old Avengers to save them.
Posted by BranchDawg
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Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 3/16/19 at 11:46 am to
quote:

I was thinking of the possibilty that the half that we saw disappear actually saw the others disappear. So there are two different realities with each thinking the other half are dead.


That kind of falls apart with Spider-Man's whole "I don't feel so good" scene. If he was seeing the other half disappearing, why would he be saying "I don't wanna go"?
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22168 posts
Posted on 3/16/19 at 11:52 am to
Same thing happened when gamora killed thanos on knowhere.
Posted by BranchDawg
Flowery Branch
Member since Nov 2013
9830 posts
Posted on 3/16/19 at 12:02 pm to
quote:

Same thing happened when gamora killed thanos on knowhere.


So that would imply that Thanos, rather than killing or disappearing half of the universe like he said, split all life into two alternate universes AND, rather than simply send one half into another universe, used the reality stone to make each side see fake acted out deaths by the other half.

That seems a little convoluted, even for Marvel
Posted by SLafourche07
Member since Feb 2008
9928 posts
Posted on 3/16/19 at 12:04 pm to
quote:

That kind of falls apart with Spider-Man's whole "I don't feel so good" scene. If he was seeing the other half disappearing, why would he be saying "I don't wanna go"?



We could have been seeing what Stark was seeing. Maybe Peter was seeing Tony disappear. The stones are powerful.


Or maybe the 2nd half is aware they disappeared but they all reappeared "on the other side" ?

Posted by TheeRealCarolina
Member since Aug 2018
17925 posts
Posted on 3/16/19 at 12:08 pm to
What if Thanos was snapping the undesirables in our world? Criminals, degenerates, the terminally ill, the lazy, and so on and such.

Obviously he eliminated some of the Avengers crew, but I’m sure he eliminated half intentionally.
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22168 posts
Posted on 3/16/19 at 12:10 pm to
Well it's exactly like what happened on knowhere but to the scale of the universe.
Posted by SLafourche07
Member since Feb 2008
9928 posts
Posted on 3/16/19 at 12:13 pm to
quote:

Well it's exactly like what happened on knowhere but to the scale of the universe.





I've only watched it once so I'm not as well versed in the movie as most of y'all, but I remember that scene.


So there's already foreshadowing that that is doable.
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