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Posted on 11/23/14 at 4:19 pm to
Posted by Bamatab
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Posted on 11/23/14 at 4:19 pm to
You're right. You wouldn't want to see Oliver having to fight the elite powered metahumans every week since it wouldn't be very realistic. But they should still leave the possibility open when a good idea comes to them on how they can pull it off. It's a cool little "gimmick" that they can hold in their back pocket when they want to give the comic readers a geek out every now and then.
Posted by PsychTiger
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Posted on 11/23/14 at 5:00 pm to
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Do not underestimate fricking Ashur


You do so at your peril. Scheming bastard was a trained gladiator after all.
Posted by Cap Crunch
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Posted on 11/23/14 at 7:27 pm to
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Loved the episode, thought Cupid was just the right mix of batshit crazy and oddly endearing

Yep. I got an Alice Morgan vibe from her
Posted by Tedock
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Posted on 11/25/14 at 3:38 pm to
A friend at work and I were talking about the show last night and he brought up an interesting theory that I really liked.

What if making Laurel Black Canary is the way the show writes off Laurels character? I understand the importance of BC in the GA mythos but Laurle is arguably the weakest link in the show (her or Roy) and the Arrow cave is getting awfully crowded. Do we really need three masked vigilantes on the same show?

So what if they train Laurel up a bit and then ship her off to a different city? Maybe have her guest star every now and again, that way we see her progressing as Black Canary, but we're not subjected to Laurel every single week.
Posted by wish i was tebow
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Posted on 11/25/14 at 4:39 pm to
Dont see it happening
Posted by Bamatab
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Posted on 11/25/14 at 4:46 pm to
Nope, I don't either. I think Laurel has always been a big part of the showrunners plans since the beginning. That is why most of us knew it was only a matter of time before Sara was killed off. I think that Black Canary is just too big of a part of Green Arrow's world to just write her out of the show now.
Posted by Tedock
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Posted on 11/25/14 at 5:07 pm to
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I think Laurel has always been a big part of the showrunners plans since the beginning.


The thing that I worry about is Arrow becoming like How I Met Your Mother. Those show runners stuck to their original idea even though the show had evolved and characters had changed. Arrow could be going down that path by sticking to the "Laurel becomes Black Canary" route even though they had a better and more interesting Canary in Sara.
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
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Posted on 11/25/14 at 5:12 pm to
Black Canary has been a legacy hero since the retcon of '83. Makes sense for them to start with one and have her mantel taken up by a family member (sisters, instead of mother/daughter as in the comics).

I'm liking having her train the hard way, especially since it brings in Wildcat (even though he's a puny Wildcat who doesn't seem to have the form of a championship fighter).
Posted by wish i was tebow
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Posted on 11/25/14 at 5:24 pm to
I wanted to type that but I was busy haha

The people in charge like her character and the Ollie laurel dynamic. They won't get rid of that.
Posted by Tedock
Little Rock
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Posted on 11/25/14 at 5:31 pm to
You guys arnt really grasping what I'm saying here. I think when the creators first started brainstorming ideas for the show that Laurel taking up the mantle of BC after the death of her sister, the original BC, that it was a great idea. It had potential to be a really gripping and exciting storyline but somewhere along the line things changed.

Part of it is how bad the Laurel character has been developed and how well Sara was. Sara felt like the actual BC, she was believable as a masked crime fighter and you can see how her crucible shaped her into the person she had become. I honestly cant tell the difference between early season 1 Laurel and season 3 Laurel, even though she's supposedly gone through her crucible.

My biggest gripe about the Laurel/BC story line is that first they killed off Sara for no other reason than to thrust Laurel into the role and that her whole story line takes time away from the stronger characters. Characters that made the show what it was in season 2. Captain Lance hasnt done shite all season, Dig is routinely sidelined, Thea and Merlyn have had like five minutes of screen time together.

I agree that Black Canary is integral to every Green Arrow story, but that doesnt mean she has to be present for all of it. Send her to Coast City or Bludhaven, let her come back a couple of times a season, and bring on Nyssa as a regular to fill the "strong women that kick arse" quota.
This post was edited on 11/25/14 at 5:34 pm
Posted by Tedock
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Posted on 12/1/14 at 6:46 pm to
Short descriptions for episodes 10-13

10. Left Behind (January 21, 2014)
With Oliver captive in Nanda Parbat, it's up to Roy to defend the city from mobster Danny Brickwell (Vinnie Jones), known as "Brick" for surviving several assassination attempts, who makes a play for power that leaves Star City on its knees. Meanwhile, Laurel makes her debut as the Black Canary.

11. Midnight City (January 28).
Laurel joins Team Arrow in their efforts to stop Brickwell.

12.Uprising (February 4, 2014).
Laurel and Roy march into the final battle against Brickwell. Meanwhile, Sin (Bex-Taylor Klaus) returns to assist in the investigation of Sara's murder.

13.Canaries (February 11, 2015).
The mystery of Sara's death has a dramatic revelation.
Posted by BlacknGold
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Posted on 12/1/14 at 7:38 pm to
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Sin (Bex-Taylor Klaus) returns to assist in the investigation of Sara's murder.


i really dont want her to be the killer. id be a little let down.
Posted by Bamatab
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 12/1/14 at 7:47 pm to
Well that description for episode 10 is a major spoiler. But it confirms your theory that Oliver will be MIA from Starling City (I'm surprised they used Star City instead of Starling City).

Also with Sin making an appearance, my long shot theory of Sin being Sara's killer just became a bit more possible.
This post was edited on 12/1/14 at 8:06 pm
Posted by Tedock
Little Rock
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Posted on 12/1/14 at 7:56 pm to
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(I'm surprised they used Star City instead of Starling City).


I noticed that too, maybe Palmer's name change happens in the mid season finale. I also really dont think Sin is the killer mainly because I dont think the actress that plays her is available for more than an episode or two.
Posted by CE Tiger
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Posted on 12/1/14 at 8:07 pm to
just watched a clip from the cross over, there will be some great felicity gifs after this episode
Posted by Bamatab
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Posted on 12/1/14 at 8:14 pm to
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I also really dont think Sin is the killer mainly because I dont think the actress that plays her is available for more than an episode or two.

She'll show back up in episode 12, then their is some sort of revelation in episode 13. So it is possible for them to actually solve her murder in that 13th episode.

But like I said, it is a longshot theory. I still think it'll turn out to be Ra's, but Sin does fit the description that Felicity gave when they all thought it was Roy.
Posted by Bamatab
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 12/1/14 at 8:15 pm to
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just watched a clip from the cross over, there will be some great felicity gifs after this episode

We can never have too many Felicity gifs.
Posted by Tedock
Little Rock
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 12/2/14 at 4:24 am to
Son of a bitch, just found out I have to work during the crossover tomorrow. Waiting until Wednesday morning to watch the episode is gonna suck.
Posted by WeBleedCrimson
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Posted on 12/2/14 at 6:47 am to


Posted by Bamatab
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Posted on 12/2/14 at 6:51 am to
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i really dont want her to be the killer. id be a little let down.


I agree if it's just her killing Sara on her own for some trumped up reason. But if she has been brainwashed or tricked somehow by Ra's into doing it, then I can see it working for the overall season storyline.
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