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re: Anybody Going To Watch "350 Days" Pro Wrestling Documentary

Posted on 7/12/18 at 10:37 pm to
Posted by Korin
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Posted on 7/12/18 at 10:37 pm to
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Its one of the reasons the smaller territories (small in size, not necessarily the pay) were so popular with wrestlers back in the day. Being able to wrestle 5-6 times a week and and spend most nights in your own bed was a nice change of pace.

Pacific Northwest Wrestling, as an example, didn't pay very well by the standards of the day but since it was such a compact territory it was popular with wrestlers because they could make shows and then drive back home easily.

Memphis, Calgary, and Mid-South, on the other hand, had spread out territories so at best you might get one or two nights a week to sleep at home. That sort of travel, combined with the wear and tear of the in ring stuff, can break someone's body down big time.


I was about to say - the travel in Mid South was BRUTAL. Dibiase and Duggan both said it was worse in some ways than even the WWF schedule back then.
Posted by the paradigm
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Posted on 7/12/18 at 10:51 pm to
In the documentary, Bret mentions that Calgary, Amarillo, and Louisiana travel schedules were the most grueling.
Posted by pioneerbasketball
Team Bunchie
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Posted on 7/13/18 at 6:39 am to
Can't argue with that.

I would rank them based on travel schedule.
1. Calgary
2. Amarillo
3. Louisiana

Last week? Cornette told a lake Charles road story on one of his podcasts.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 7/13/18 at 7:01 am to
Why is Louisiana so terrible?
Posted by the paradigm
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Posted on 7/13/18 at 7:13 am to
From what Backlund said in his book, Florida was pretty rough too.

There were a few things I found interesting -- DiBiase spoke about how he worked on the film "Paradise Alley" with Stallone, and how during filming there were some members of the cast and crew who were talking negatively about the "fake" pro wrestlers who were involved. Stallone shut down the filming one day and said, "Hey - I don't want to hear one more negative comment about pro wrestlers. These guys are the best improv actors in the world. With them here, we can film in 3 days what it would take 6 weeks to do with some Hollywood stuntmen."

Bret Hart spoke about how he thought the WWE's implementation of drug testing was a good thing... UNTIL they started testing for marijuana. He stated that the majority of the wrestlers who smoked weed would do it in their hotel rooms at night, to wind down before going to bed. Bret predicted that once WWE took that away from them, guys would turn to alcohol and pills -- and he was right. Within a year, wrestlers started dropping dead left and right.

One topic was how pro wrestling destroyed marriages, because guys were unfaithful on the road. Lanny Poffo went on a rant talking about how guys like Tito Santana (who now runs a hair salon), Rick Martel, and Bill Eadie have been married to the same woman throughout their entire careers.

Poffo also mentioned the guys who stayed away from drugs and alcohol, including himself. He said he's one of the few from his era who's still healthy and wealthy, because he didn't blow his $ on drugs and booze. Slick mentioned how his dad (Rufus R. Jones) threatened him if he ever drank or got into drugs, so he stayed away from it. Eadie & Santana were also mentioned.

Marty Jannetty looked totally wasted during his brief segments. He was a mess, talking about how he & Shawn used to basically just use their hotel rooms to store their luggage while they went out partying. He said his limit was 3 girls a night.

DiBiase spoke about his adulterous ways (I witnessed this firsthand myself), but how his wife chose to stay with him and challenged him to become a man of God, and how they're still happily married and recently celebrated their 30-something anniversary.

James J. Dillon did a great job of providing insight and commentary.

Billy Graham was featured quite a bit, but it seemed (to me, at least) that he exaggerated quite a bit.

Ox Baker is fricking out there.

Every time I listen to Bret I gain more admiration for him, but damn if he isn't a mark for himself. He pointed out how many guys over the years pulled him aside and told him that the best match they ever had was with him.
This post was edited on 7/13/18 at 10:51 am
Posted by the paradigm
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Posted on 7/13/18 at 7:29 am to
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Why is Louisiana so terrible?



It actually encompassed more than just Louisiana. Before being purchased by Bill Watts and being renamed Mid-South, it was known as the Tri-States territory. Most towns on the circuit were in Louisiana (Houma, Baton Rouge, Shreveport, New Orleans, Monroe) but the TV tapings took place in Tulsa, and there were other towns (Fort Smith, Oklahoma City, Little Rock) as well, and also Mississippi in towns like Biloxi, Jackson, and Greenwood. Trips would be long -- for instance, one night they'd be in New Orleans, then they'd have to drive all the way to Tulsa (700 miles) for the TV tapings the next day, then drive all the way back to Houma for the following night.

Once Watts purchased the territory they started running shows more prominently in east Texas as well. Primary focus continued to be on Louisiana, but they also ran shows in Arkansas, Oklahoma, and Mississippi, which meant A LOT of driving.
This post was edited on 7/13/18 at 7:34 am
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 7/13/18 at 8:15 am to
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for instance, one night they'd be in New Orleans, then they'd have to drive all the way to Tulsa (700 miles) for the TV tapings the next day, then drive all the way back to Houma for the following night.


Oh. Yeah frick that lmao.
Posted by Pilot Tiger
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Posted on 7/13/18 at 8:44 am to
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Being able to wrestle 5-6 times a week and and spend most nights in your own bed was a nice change of pace.
Later on, wasn't WCW sorta like this too?

I think a lot of the stars were talking about how they didn't really have to do house shows so they'd just do the tapings/ppvs and that was pretty much it
Posted by Arksulli
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Posted on 7/13/18 at 9:36 am to
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Later on, wasn't WCW sorta like this too?

I think a lot of the stars were talking about how they didn't really have to do house shows so they'd just do the tapings/ppvs and that was pretty much it


They had a ridiculously low number of house show dates they had to work per contract so most of them would grind those out in a month or so and then sit at home for everything but tapings/PPV for the next year or two.

I did catch the first Bret Hart vs Sting match at a house show in Memphis but that was an exception to the norm because they were prepping for a big match in a couple of weeks and wanted to iron out the kinks.

It was one of many reasons WCW went belly up. House shows started tanking since most of the stars were skipping them.
Posted by lsucoonass
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Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 7/13/18 at 10:30 am to
Yeah I’d say you’d lose money that way too.

But also having David arquette as world champ, wanting to change ric flair to Spartacus, shitty Vince Russo booking, very lucrative contracts, aol merger, and many other things

I’ll never forget the hulk hogan and macho man facing the whole dungeon of doom and horsemen at uncensored
Posted by Pilot Tiger
North Carolina
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Posted on 7/13/18 at 10:47 am to
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It was one of many reasons WCW went belly up. House shows started tanking since most of the stars were skipping them.
yea and house shows SHOULD be one of the primary money makers. the TV show is just to get your name out there in order to sell out 5-6 venues every week
Posted by the paradigm
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Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 7/13/18 at 10:50 am to
This is another review I feel is accurate:

"I left the theatre rather disappointed. My impression was that of numerous still photos strung together by music and brief meanderings by retired stars. No new insights were revealed save for an interesting hypothesis from Bret Hart. He believes that WWE testing for weed resulted in more guys instead drinking and using pills, ultimately resulting in the recent epidemic of deaths among wrestlers."
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 7/13/18 at 10:53 am to
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It was one of many reasons WCW went belly up. House shows started tanking since most of the stars were skipping them.


Yeah I remember going to a WCW house show in BR in 98 and very few big Stars were there. I think the main event was Luger and Scott Hall but other than that it was mostly lower card guys, even a lot of mid carders weren’t there. I think Jericho and Raven were but that’s it.
Posted by Pilot Tiger
North Carolina
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Posted on 7/13/18 at 10:59 am to
that's disappointing but not surprising

In the internet/podcast age there is just so much information out there that these types of documentaries aren't really able to tell us new and never before heard information
Posted by the paradigm
Moon Township, PA
Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 7/13/18 at 12:16 pm to
Another interesting tidbit: at the film’s conclusion, all of the wrestlers were asked if they’d change anything, or do it all over again. 100% said they would do it again

After the credits rolled, there was an extra segment where one of the film’s producers (who was a total mark) sat down with JJ Dillon for a brief Q&A session. They talked about War Games, Flair’s greatness, Bruno, and the difference between The Horsemen and The Shield. Dillon pointed out that the Horsemen was not a planned thing. He said they were at a TV taping (I think) and at the time, Tully was the only one he managed. They were running short on time (or something like that) so the producer told them (JJ, Tully, Flair, & Arn) to just all go out at the same time and cut a promo. During the promo, Arn made the comment, “Take a good look at your TV screen... there hasn’t been a collection of talent like this since the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse” and held up four fingers. Later when they went to the ring, some fans started holding up 4 fingers and yelling, “Four Horsemen!” Then, the next night in Greenville, one side of the front row was decked out in suits & ties and were holding up 4 fingers and yelling “Four Horsemen!” and it all spread and escalated from there. So in the case of The Horsemen, it was actually started naturally by the fans, whereas The Shield was planned and formed by Creative.
This post was edited on 7/13/18 at 12:18 pm
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 7/13/18 at 4:18 pm to
Couldn't they have had someone else instead of murderer Snuka?
Posted by Zap Rowsdower
MissLou, La
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 7/13/18 at 5:43 pm to
I’ll be checking this out ASAP.


I just want a feature film based on all the stories from The Plane Ride From Hell.
Seems like it would be in Tarantino’s wheelhouse
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