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Posted on 2/18/15 at 2:41 pm to WaltTeevens
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voting for people because "I like them" and "He was on 5,000 episodes of Law & Order"? This is why I don't give a hot god damn about the oscars.
If you have seen Whiplash you will come to the conclusion that J.K. Simmons deserves it. He's probably the most deserving of all the nominees in each of the acting categories.
On the flip side, Julianne Moore will win because she's been nominated many times and has never won. This will be her lifetime achievement award. However that Oscar belongs to Rosamund Pike this year. At least it should.
This post was edited on 2/18/15 at 2:42 pm
Posted on 2/18/15 at 2:44 pm to Augustus
WTF?
So just frick Carell, Cooper, Cumberbatch, and Redmayne because Keaton's a nice guy?
Seriously??
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I'm voting for [Birdman's] Michael Keaton because I love him and for a lot of reasons, not the least of which is he seems like a completely sane person who lives in the middle of the country and works when he wants to work. I've loved every interview that he's done. He seems grateful, not particularly needy, and I don't know when he'll ever get another chance at this; the other nominees will.
So just frick Carell, Cooper, Cumberbatch, and Redmayne because Keaton's a nice guy?
Seriously??
Posted on 2/18/15 at 2:44 pm to Augustus
Whoever it was they better hope their name doesn't leak out
Posted on 2/18/15 at 2:45 pm to Dr RC
I don't even care. I just find it to be such an ugly reflection of this insulated segment of America.
They're so clueless as to what ordinary people are like, and it's funny because it's such overboard elitism, yet most of the actors in this little clique (I guess that's the right word) barely graduated high school
it's so funny how important they think all of this shite is
I looove movies. There are images and experiences that stick with you, but in the end...it's not important. There's nothing prestigious about it. Where does this inflated sense of self importance even come from?
and the same thing goes for sports, there's not really a large amount of prestige in entertainment, maybe like Chopin or Tchaikovsky since that requires some measure of genius and god given talent.
They're so clueless as to what ordinary people are like, and it's funny because it's such overboard elitism, yet most of the actors in this little clique (I guess that's the right word) barely graduated high school
it's so funny how important they think all of this shite is
I looove movies. There are images and experiences that stick with you, but in the end...it's not important. There's nothing prestigious about it. Where does this inflated sense of self importance even come from?
and the same thing goes for sports, there's not really a large amount of prestige in entertainment, maybe like Chopin or Tchaikovsky since that requires some measure of genius and god given talent.
This post was edited on 2/18/15 at 2:47 pm
Posted on 2/18/15 at 2:54 pm to Big Scrub TX
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Sounds like she let non-movie reasons creep in...
Sounds like the opposite. Her voting was done almost exclusively on non-movie reasons, and she occasionally let movie reasons creep in. How about you vote for the movie/performance you thought was best?
Posted on 2/18/15 at 2:54 pm to DelU249
at saying that when you are doing extreme stereotyping of her just b/c you assume she is some sort of elitist Hollywood d-bag.Posted on 2/18/15 at 2:59 pm to Dr RC
yeah, because everything she says sounds like an elitist Hollywood d-bag
you can deny it all you want. I suppose you're giving her the benefit of the doubt which is what I would do, if this reputation the film industry has wasn't so well earned.
you can deny it all you want. I suppose you're giving her the benefit of the doubt which is what I would do, if this reputation the film industry has wasn't so well earned.
Posted on 2/18/15 at 3:02 pm to Wishnitwas1998
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Whoever it was they better hope their name doesn't leak out
This, although I assume it eventually will. shite like this is usually done for attention, and then the person seeking the attention ends up hating the over-attention that he/she receives.
This may fall into the whole "this will not end well" category for this person.
Posted on 2/18/15 at 3:02 pm to Augustus
That article is a perfect representation of why I don't watch the Oscars. Pathetic.
Posted on 2/18/15 at 3:05 pm to DelU249
Well I also disagree on how well earned that rep is. I don't believe that Hollywood is anywhere near as elitist or liberal as certain media and various political groups make it out to be.
Posted on 2/18/15 at 3:06 pm to DelU249
Methinks Dr RC might have written this article...
Posted on 2/18/15 at 3:10 pm to Indigold
nah mayne, my vote for best picture would go to Captain America: Winter Soldier b/c it was the best time I had at the movies last year.
Posted on 2/18/15 at 3:13 pm to DelU249
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They're so clueless as to what ordinary people are like, and it's funny because it's such overboard elitism, yet most of the actors in this little clique (I guess that's the right word) barely graduated high school
A lot of projection there. I'm sure there's an element of Hollywood that wouldn't know "regular folks" if they came up and hit them with a brick, but the vast majority of people who work on movies are "regular folks". There's about five minutes of credits in a Hollywood movie, they aren't all living in mansions. And most weren't born in them. They might not be in touch with the values/experiences of small town middle America, but they are in touch with big-city and suburban America, which is most of the country (barely, but still).
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it's so funny how important they think all of this shite is
Well, it sort of is. this is their industry awards. Just like whatever big corporate award they hand out at whatever company you work for. Or the association award for the industry you work in. It is a big deal to them because it's their peers recognizing their work, just as it would be a big deal if the Chamber of Commerce named you the businessman of the year.
Now, should we care is a totally different and legitimate question. But I don't begrudge professionals for caring deeply about the honors of their own professional body bestows. In any line of work.
Posted on 2/18/15 at 3:14 pm to Dr RC
My opinion wasn't formed from someone else
It is my own, and I've had this opinion since I was very young.
It is my own, and I've had this opinion since I was very young.
Posted on 2/18/15 at 3:24 pm to Baloo
Yes, I'm projecting
Yes any objection you have is self loathing or being a "hater" The only thing it can't be is that it's an industry chocked full of self satisfaction and elitist attitudes
Yes any objection you have is self loathing or being a "hater" The only thing it can't be is that it's an industry chocked full of self satisfaction and elitist attitudes
Posted on 2/18/15 at 3:26 pm to Baloo
Oh no, I'm speaking about the academy ACTORS
I even used the word actors
I know the costume designer or makeup artist or boom mike guy isn't in a mansion, NOT that it matters
They're worth the money they're paid, I'm not even concerned with that
ETA: However, I'm fairly confident that this attitude isn't exclusive to actors
also, I do appreciate that people in that town make fun of it to no end (trey parker/matt stone, Sasha Bora Cohen, etc.)
I didn't really see the whole "American sniper" chatter to be left/right, so much as how many people were flocking to see it...hey guys, we churn out your transformer movies but these are for sophisticated people. American Sniper had/has a big box office haul, and I imagine that's a reflection on the quality of the movie to them.
those feelings aside, the OP makes it quite clear she's not voting based on what is the best, and I bet that's quite common.
Oh, I didn't vote for Selma because they behaved foolishly at the premiere, not because they're black...that's still fricking stupid...and still kind of elitist.
I even used the word actors
I know the costume designer or makeup artist or boom mike guy isn't in a mansion, NOT that it matters
They're worth the money they're paid, I'm not even concerned with that
ETA: However, I'm fairly confident that this attitude isn't exclusive to actors
also, I do appreciate that people in that town make fun of it to no end (trey parker/matt stone, Sasha Bora Cohen, etc.)
I didn't really see the whole "American sniper" chatter to be left/right, so much as how many people were flocking to see it...hey guys, we churn out your transformer movies but these are for sophisticated people. American Sniper had/has a big box office haul, and I imagine that's a reflection on the quality of the movie to them.
those feelings aside, the OP makes it quite clear she's not voting based on what is the best, and I bet that's quite common.
Oh, I didn't vote for Selma because they behaved foolishly at the premiere, not because they're black...that's still fricking stupid...and still kind of elitist.
This post was edited on 2/18/15 at 3:38 pm
Posted on 2/18/15 at 3:28 pm to Augustus
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First, let me say that I'm tired of all of this talk about "snubs" — I thought for every one of [the snubs] there was a justifiable reason. What no one wants to say out loud is that Selma is a well-crafted movie, but there's no art to it. If the movie had been directed by a 60-year-old white male, I don't think that people would have been carrying on about it to the level that they were. And as far as the accusations about the Academy being racist? Yes, most members are white males, but they are not the cast of Deliverance — they had to get into the Academy to begin with, so they're not cretinous, snaggletoothed hillbillies. When a movie about black people is good, members vote for it. But if the movie isn't that good, am I supposed to vote for it just because it has black people in it? I've got to tell you, having the cast show up in T-shirts saying "I can't breathe" [at their New York premiere] — I thought that stuff was offensive. Did they want to be known for making the best movie of the year or for stirring up shite?
Posted on 2/18/15 at 3:40 pm to DelU249
Well, I didn't use the word "hater". I hate that term because, well, some things are worthy of hatred. Like most people on the planet, I like somethings and hate other things. I tink people who try to dismiss criticism with "haters gonna hate" are really insecure about criticism. Unless they are kidding, which is true about half of the time.
But I think you're being incredibly defensive towards people you don't even know. Hell, I'm willing to be dollars to donuts this unnamed voter is not an actor, she sounds more like a suit in a studio. Let's just assume she's a VP of blahbittyblah. Is she elitsit? Probably. So then is every VP in every company in every industry. It seems like you've built an elaborate personal attack on people you have not, nor will ever, meet.
But even your claim that you're only talking about actors doesn't really hold water. Most actors aren't George Clooney. JK Simmons is just a working stiff. He makes good money, but I doubt he's living the high life. The more interesting question is, why are you so intimidated by actors and artists? I mean, they don't rule the earth or even, compared to other industries, make ungodly sums of cash. What makes them elitist, if they aren't actually elite? Know who is elitist? Everyone in Congress. They actually run shite, too. The VP's of Citibank are more elite. And I'm sure, like all groups are people, some are cool, and some are raging douchenozzles.
But I think you're being incredibly defensive towards people you don't even know. Hell, I'm willing to be dollars to donuts this unnamed voter is not an actor, she sounds more like a suit in a studio. Let's just assume she's a VP of blahbittyblah. Is she elitsit? Probably. So then is every VP in every company in every industry. It seems like you've built an elaborate personal attack on people you have not, nor will ever, meet.
But even your claim that you're only talking about actors doesn't really hold water. Most actors aren't George Clooney. JK Simmons is just a working stiff. He makes good money, but I doubt he's living the high life. The more interesting question is, why are you so intimidated by actors and artists? I mean, they don't rule the earth or even, compared to other industries, make ungodly sums of cash. What makes them elitist, if they aren't actually elite? Know who is elitist? Everyone in Congress. They actually run shite, too. The VP's of Citibank are more elite. And I'm sure, like all groups are people, some are cool, and some are raging douchenozzles.
Posted on 2/18/15 at 4:06 pm to DelU249
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No it's not precisely what she said, it's what she meant
Hey this is the elite of Hollywood, not the 450 lbs wal mart shoppers that populate the rest of bovine America
Cut the shite, you know exactly what she means
To be fair to Dr RC, thats not what she said. She said
quote:which is completely true, there will never be anybody in the academy who fits this description.
Yes, most members are white males, but they are not the cast of Deliverance — they had to get into the Academy to begin with, so they're not cretinous, snaggletoothed hillbillies
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