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Posted on 7/8/25 at 5:09 pm to cfish140
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Posted on 7/8/25 at 5:12 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
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Anyone else besides me who has seen AiB but not a single minute of Squid Games?
No?
Just me?
<<<<<<<<<<<< raises hand
Posted on 7/8/25 at 5:14 pm to FreshMeat10
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watch the queen of spades episode
S1, but that wolf-sheep game hit hard. I honestly don't think I had a death scene make me audibly gasp like that since early GoT.
This post was edited on 7/8/25 at 6:34 pm
Posted on 7/8/25 at 5:39 pm to theGarnetWay
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The idea was they all died in an asteroid right so they ended up in the game
Not quite. Everyone that was in the game was still alive, their consciousness transferred to the borderland when their heart’s stopped for a minute, but they were all still alive but basically in limbo. If they died in the borderlands, their body would die in the real world.
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But that doesn't explain how some of them got to be game operators, like we saw at the end of S1, and how others got to be players
When they were brought to the borderlands, some were made operators and some were made players.
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Also, all the operators at the end of S1 presumably died at the same time (they were all found dead with the laser shot through the head), so did they all die at the exact same time weeks after the asteroid hit?
Yes once they died in the games, they died in real life.
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I also feel like it kind of implied the injuries they sustained in the game were injuries they sustained from the actual asteroid hit, was that correct? If so, I'm pretty sure we saw people die from panther attacks and drowning, not sure how it explains that.
The injuries were of the same nature, not that they got them the same way in the real world.
Posted on 7/8/25 at 6:10 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
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Yes once they died in the games, they died in real life.
Okay, but the implication is about ~50 survivors presumably died all that the exact same time of basically the same injury in real life?
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When they were brought to the borderlands, some were made operators and some were made players.
So why was there a need to recruit 2 players (the pair of girls that were 'dealers' in S1) to be spies/make sure the game runs as needed? Why can't operators just do that?
Posted on 7/8/25 at 6:20 pm to theGarnetWay
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ETA: For a show that sometimes gave off the vibe that anyone can die at anytime, I didn't care much for that like 5 v 1 boss fight where people were fighting/surviving through ridiculous wounds.
I believe I had the same gripe at the time that I watched the second season. And I also agree that S1 > S2. But I thought S2 was still very good and I really liked the whole asteroid/these people are sort of in limbo/purgatory (borderland) where they play these games and determine if they live or die. I guess I just didn’t see that coming so I thought it was cool.
Looking back at the S2 thread, I liked the ending but had issues with it being purgatory. I guess the more I sat on it the more I ended up liking it. I did also say that it was weird that it had a nice, complete ending but then also teased the joker card. But I was rolling with the show for as long as they put seasons out.
And this was my gripe on the injuries:
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My gripes are similar to previous ones mentioned. But the biggest is the damage players were able to take and just keep going or stay alive. Like it was so bad sometimes that it was distracting. Niragi and Aguni were ridiculous, as was Kuina taking 37 stabs to the side and abdomen. But the worst was the high school girl taking half a mag to the torso and basically exploding and collapsing….then dragging herself across the field to Aguni. Also they kept giving people death scenes only to bring them back later. It’s like these people are superheroes who can withstand brutal damage…and I won’t even get into the ridiculousness that was the king of spades. But I just chalked it up to anime culture and rode with it.
This post was edited on 7/8/25 at 6:29 pm
Posted on 7/8/25 at 6:41 pm to theGarnetWay
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Okay, but the implication is about ~50 survivors presumably died all that the exact same time of basically the same injury in real life?
What do you mean by same injury?
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So why was there a need to recruit 2 players (the pair of girls that were 'dealers' in S1) to be spies/make sure the game runs as needed? Why can't operators just do that?
The dealers purpose was to make sure the games ran smoothly and in accordance to the rules. The entire purpose of all of it is for the Joker to basically test people’s will to live. The dealers live objective was to kill all the players. Where the player’s objective was to survive.
As to them turning spies, that was because those at the beach were basically gaming the system the Joker had created. So, they had to infiltrate and take it down to get the system back in order.
Posted on 7/8/25 at 6:43 pm to CocomoLSU
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And this was my gripe on the injuries:
Yea until the ending, I had some issues with the seeming plot armor. After the ending though, it made more sense as it is much more their will to live over their actual injuries they are taking. While it seemed insane to some points how it happened in the games, their bodies had sustained similar severity of injuries and they are fighting for survival.
Posted on 7/8/25 at 7:01 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
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What do you mean by same injury?
At the end of S1, the main characters walked into that one room with all the monitors, computers etc that were controllig the game. All the operators were dead at their stations with the laser hole in their head. The implication being they all died at the same time. So, if someone dying in the borderland means they died in the real world with an equivalent injury, that means about ~50 people died at the exact same time of similar injuries in the real world.
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As to them turning spies, that was because those at the beach were basically gaming the system the Joker had created. So, they had to infiltrate and take it down to get the system back in order.
But again, why not just send 2 people already designated as operators?
Posted on 7/8/25 at 7:06 pm to theGarnetWay
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So, if someone dying in the borderland means they died in the real world with an equivalent injury, that means about ~50 people died at the exact same time of similar injuries in the real world
The method they die isn’t necessarily the injury they’ve sustained. The guy in the first episode that gave up, he didn’t die in the real world from a laser hole. The purpose of the injuries was to show the link between their real body and their consciousness.
But the root of the question, yes in the real world roughly 50 people died at the same time.
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But again, why not just send 2 people already designated as operators?
Maybe I’m not understanding your definition of operator. Dealers and operators are the same. Are you meaning citizens?
Posted on 7/8/25 at 7:15 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
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But the root of the question, yes in the real world roughly 50 people died at the same time.
I guess we can just say that's what happened, that's fine. But I get the feeling when they filmed the scene of 50 guys being offed, they didn't expect the explanation to be that they all died in the real world. Not a big deal either way.
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Maybe I’m not understanding your definition of operator. Dealers and operators are the same. Are you meaning citizens?
The two girls that were chosen as dealers were initially players in the games. Why even recruit those two? Why not choose two people in the monitoring station that already knew the players were being watched to do the job?
This post was edited on 7/8/25 at 7:21 pm
Posted on 7/8/25 at 8:18 pm to theGarnetWay
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guess we can just say that's what happened, that's fine. But I get the feeling when they filmed the scene of 50 guys being offed, they didn't expect the explanation to be that they all died in the real world. Not a big deal either way.
I’m really not understanding the issue you’re trying to make around this or what you’re trying to say doesn’t make sense. Maybe issue isn’t the right word, but I’m just I guess failing to understand the argument at hand. They are being kept alive by basically a deity to see if they can win their right to live again. Why is 50 being killed at the same time an issue?
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The two girls that were chosen as dealers were initially players in the games.
Don’t believe so but it’s been a while since I watched it. I believe when they were brought into the world, they were brought in as dealers.
This post was edited on 7/8/25 at 8:41 pm
Posted on 7/8/25 at 9:43 pm to cfish140
frick yeah. Didn't know this happening. I'm down. Now I can rewatch the other two.
Posted on 7/9/25 at 3:15 am to GoCrazyAuburn
I’ve rewatched season 1 twice, I was really drunk when I binged season 2 so probably just need to rewatch that one
Posted on 7/9/25 at 4:43 am to GoCrazyAuburn
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They are being kept alive by basically a deity to see if they can win their right to live again. Why is 50 being killed at the same time an issue?
I mean, I don’t think it was particularly clear who/what that female game master was, but if you want to say deity to say everything works - fine.
Posted on 7/9/25 at 9:37 am to theGarnetWay
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I mean, I don’t think it was particularly clear who/what that female game master was, but if you want to say deity to say everything works - fine.
I mean, that is the entire point, they are in purgatory. Someone is able to alter their memories (the fireworks instead of a meteor), erase them entirely if needed, and ultimately allow people to return or not to the real world. Use whatever term you see fit for it. The borderland games are a way to determine who eventually returns after a traumatic event like the meteor.
Mira (Queen of Hearts) isn't a deity, she was once a player and decided to stay as a Citizen instead of return to the real world. All of the face cards were citizens, so they were once players given the same choice Arisu got at the end.
ETA: And I did go back and double check Momoka and Asahi were initially made dealers, they were never players. When they arrived into the Borderland, they were chosen to be dealers.
Spoilers for the Manga:
The managa presents the Joker as the Ferryman (Charon essentially).
This post was edited on 7/9/25 at 9:53 am
Posted on 7/9/25 at 11:46 am to cfish140
OK, I watched the first episode last night after seeing everyone in here love it.
Are all the game solutions as ridiculously contrived as the door game? That was absurd and completely took me out of it.
ETA: glad to see pretty much the whole internet thought so too. Looks like it was a game made up by Netflix and not the manga author, go figure
Are all the game solutions as ridiculously contrived as the door game? That was absurd and completely took me out of it.
ETA: glad to see pretty much the whole internet thought so too. Looks like it was a game made up by Netflix and not the manga author, go figure
This post was edited on 7/9/25 at 11:50 am
Posted on 7/9/25 at 12:34 pm to Carson123987
Give it to episode 4. I believe thats the first diamond game IIRC
Posted on 7/9/25 at 12:39 pm to Carson123987
Yea, there are a lot better games. That one was a pretty low number card.
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