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After Hours (1985) - Scorsese's forgotten NY nocturnal odyssey

Posted on 7/12/21 at 7:24 pm
Posted by Jack Ruby
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Posted on 7/12/21 at 7:24 pm
Since most new movies are absolute dogshit now, I've been on a directors deep dive into lesser known films of the past lately.

In doing so, I stumbled upon Martin Scorsese's 1985 quirky Oddysey-like film After Hours, something I had never seen before.

I won't spoil anything, but all I could think of while watching it unfold was just how much it felt like parts of Eyes Wide Shut, early Tarantino films like Four Rooms, Pulp Fiction (especially the Travolta/Uma Thurman scenes), and even early Coen Brothers films.

No, it's not a crime movie or action movie by any means, but just think of it as a venture into 1980s downtown NY artistic underworld by an unsuspecting nobody.

It's not streaming anywhere that I know of, but you can rent it for like $3. Some won't like it, but some will defiently be Intrigied by it.



This post was edited on 7/12/21 at 7:29 pm
Posted by Lsupimp
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Posted on 7/12/21 at 7:36 pm to
I had this movie memorized back in the day I saw it so many times. That was one long night.
Posted by shutterspeed
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Posted on 7/12/21 at 7:44 pm to
Really cool “night” movie. The closing credits camera work/blocking is incredible.
Posted by Jack Ruby
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Posted on 7/12/21 at 8:23 pm to
Apparelty there all all kinds of theories and breakdowns on the movie as well, including if he's really even alive or dead for much of the film.
Posted by Havoc
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Posted on 7/12/21 at 9:40 pm to
Urban 70s/80s night movies should be its own genre.
Posted by noladan
new orleans
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Posted on 7/12/21 at 10:14 pm to
I always confuse After Hours with John Landis’ Into the Night. Both came out in the mid 80’s and both involve “normal” guys that get thrown into crazy circumstances……Both take place over the course of one night.
Posted by chinese58
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Posted on 7/12/21 at 10:26 pm to
quote:

I always confuse After Hours with John Landis’ Into the Night. Both came out in the mid 80’s and both involve “normal” guys that get thrown into crazy circumstances……Both take place over the course of one night.
Can lump Desperately Seeking Susan in with them too.
Posted by Jack Ruby
Member since Apr 2014
26553 posts
Posted on 7/12/21 at 11:07 pm to
I still want to call After Hours, Night Shift.

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Into the Night


I'll have to watch this. I assume it's not on the same level as Scorsese's film, but still the same vibe, right?


quote:

Urban 70s/80s night movies should be its own genre.



Yep. Off the top of my head, these are all pretty much in that genre:

Taxi Driver, Night Shift, After Hours, Night Moves, Escape From New York, The Warriors, Saturday Night Fever, Mean Streets, Death Wish, etc, etc, etc.

All basically set in NY as well. I think NYC and Miami are easily the best "night" settings.

Some more modern films like Son of Sam, Shame, and American Psycho have a lot of those same vibes.
This post was edited on 7/12/21 at 11:11 pm
Posted by DaleGribble
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Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 7/12/21 at 11:50 pm to
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Can lump Desperately Seeking Susan in with them too.


And Something Wild with Jeff Daniels and Melanie Griffith.
Posted by slough
Louisiana
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Posted on 7/13/21 at 12:27 am to
One of my favorites. Another good one along similar lines is Miracle Mile.
Posted by DaleGribble
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Posted on 7/13/21 at 12:43 am to
Daniel Day Lewis made a movie called Stars and Bars in the late 80s that would fit in this genre. I saw it years ago on cable and thought that it was a really entertaining movie with a great cast.

It's really hard to find. When I was trying to find it to stream or download, it seems like I read that he is embarrassed of it and doesn't want it seen. From what I can remember, it was definitely worth watching. Probably the only comedy that he's ever been in.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
39069 posts
Posted on 7/13/21 at 2:05 am to
There's no doubt Date Night ripped it off.

But in a sanitized, slapstick way.

After Hours is a bewilderment to a lot of people because its only a comedy by happenstance... Meaning it doesn't have that lassez-faire comedy vibe but rather serious.

Its a hard movie to pin down and probably confused audiences to some degree. It's not for most tastes as you suggest.
This post was edited on 7/13/21 at 2:15 am
Posted by Jack Ruby
Member since Apr 2014
26553 posts
Posted on 7/13/21 at 2:13 am to
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Mno doubt Date Night ripped it off.


And what a poor job they did.

I'd also say Kubrick was heavily influenced by it for the street scenes of Eyes Wide Shut...and I didn't think it was even possible for him to "copy" other directors.

Something about those old film-shot night movies that just look and feel dream- and trance-like.

Probably because they had to light the streets with giant overheads and now they can just use high-native ISO digital, but still, those old lenses and lighting made the movies mindbending and nocturnally magic.
This post was edited on 7/13/21 at 2:15 am
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
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Posted on 7/13/21 at 9:11 am to
Scorsese's third of the anthology New York Stories (1989) had a very After Hours/Night in SoHo feel to it. "Life Lessons" has Nick Nolte as a painter who struggles with artistic block. Rosanna Arquette is his assistant/girlfriend who infuriates him to the point where he can paint.

Coppola's portion is forgettable, Woody Allen's portion is light comedy. Scorsese's part stands out from the other two.
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
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Posted on 7/13/21 at 9:41 am to
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It's not streaming anywhere that I know of

We watched it a couple of times on HBO Max recently, but it's rotated out. I had recommended it in an HBO Max thread a few months ago.
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 7/13/21 at 9:49 am to
Scarface, more or less.
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
37835 posts
Posted on 7/13/21 at 9:49 am to
quote:

Something about those old film-shot night movies that just look and feel dream- and trance-like.

Probably because they had to light the streets with giant overheads and now they can just use high-native ISO digital, but still, those old lenses and lighting made the movies mindbending and nocturnally magic.

Well stated.
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 11/27/21 at 7:08 am to
You can buy or rent it in YouTube
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