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re: Your Parkview Baptist Eagles 24 - Saint Thomas Moore - 21 F - PBS wins 5th title

Posted on 12/8/15 at 3:06 pm to
Posted by choupiquesushi
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Posted on 12/8/15 at 3:06 pm to
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Most head coaches write down and keep a note of each timeout taken and when it was taken for both teams. I thought this was common knowledge. I guess some coaches don't pay attention in some of those conferences they go to. Some even go as far as recording each penalty including type of penalty, the number of their player who commited the penalty, and the time of the game so maybe they can review it on film and make corrections with the player. Just sayin.



Ive worked an awful lot of games over the years as a wing official - i have never seen a coach write down time outs.... including many of the best in the state... they depend on the officials to keep track of it..

every time a timeout is called by either team the wing official on notifies the coach of how many time outs each has remaining... it is my understanding from numerous sources - PBS thought STM was out of timeouts.
Posted by bbap
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Posted on 12/8/15 at 3:16 pm to
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it is my understanding from numerous sources - PBS thought STM was out of timeouts.


I'm pretty sure this is the case because after PBS second kneel and 2nd timeout by STM (which most thought was their 3rd) one of the PBS started losing his mind after talking with an official.

At the time i had no idea what he could be so pissed about. Clearly he had just learned that STM still had a timeout left.
This post was edited on 12/8/15 at 3:16 pm
Posted by The Boat
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Posted on 12/8/15 at 3:22 pm to
Even if STM only had 2 timeouts I thought at the time Parkview was dumb for trying to kneel it out with how much time was left. Even with 2 timeouts STM was going to get the ball back. Parkview should have ran their offense. Now you don't want to run the option and pitch it in that situation but they could have handed the ball up the middle or let the QB keep it around the edge.
Posted by BayouBengals03
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Posted on 12/8/15 at 3:24 pm to
How has this thread not been anchored yet?
Posted by The Boat
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Posted on 12/8/15 at 3:25 pm to
Dem Eagles
Posted by bbap
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Posted on 12/8/15 at 9:36 pm to
With 2 timeouts stm would've gotten the ball with 10 seconds. Guess he just thought that was less risky then a potential fumble.
Posted by The Boat
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Posted on 12/8/15 at 9:44 pm to
It would have been more than that. Parkview ran a lot of time off with that long run on 3rd down that got called back. No matter what it's pretty weak coaching to kneel the ball when the other team is going to get to run offensive plays.
Posted by ATH216
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Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 12/8/15 at 10:25 pm to
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It would have been more than that. Parkview ran a lot of time off with that long run on 3rd down that got called back. No matter what it's pretty weak coaching to kneel the ball when the other team is going to get to run offensive plays.



After the TD that was called back on 3rd down there was 42 seconds left. Had the officials not given STM their 4th timeout of the half, the punt would've taken place with around 20 seconds left. Having a high school team go 80+ yards in 20 or so seconds and no timeouts sounds the exact opposite of weak coaching.
This post was edited on 12/8/15 at 10:29 pm
Posted by The Boat
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Posted on 12/8/15 at 10:28 pm to
How much time was there before that play? One minute? Why are you going to run a play after forcing yourself into a 3rd and very long. Run a play on 1st down.
Posted by ATH216
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 12/8/15 at 10:38 pm to
You take the knee to force STM to burn their timeouts and not have to worry about a fumble. They did that on 1st and 2nd down. I think the 3rd down play was designed to have Reggie run around and burn as much clock as possible. He just happened to house it for a TD. But to answer your question, I think STM used what should've been their last TO with just under a min left.

And what happens if you fumble on 1st or 2nd down? Now STM has their TOs and they're at midfield... Not very smart if you ask me
Posted by southernelite
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 12/8/15 at 10:41 pm to
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STM their 4th timeout of the half,





Parkview called a timeout early in the half and the scoreboard deducted the TO from STM. STM only got 3 TOs.
Posted by The Boat
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Posted on 12/8/15 at 10:43 pm to
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And what happens if you fumble on 1st or 2nd down? Now STM has their TOs and they're at midfield... Not very smart if you ask me

If you fumble on on 3rd down they have the ball at midfield with a minute left. Timeouts wouldn't even matter. They moved the ball all night with chunk yardage and they have a D1 kicker.

Either coach scared and kneel all three downs or run safe plays in an attempt to pick up the 1st down.

Or know how many timeouts the other team has.
Posted by NOSTRODAMUS
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Posted on 12/9/15 at 10:39 am to
I hate to second guess coach Mayet. Im surprised, even if STM had two timeouts left, that he didn't just have reggie run 3 straight keepers to get a first down. I feel confident he would have picked up 10 yards on 3 carries. PBS hasn't been the best at getting punts off in the dome lately.
Posted by NOSTRODAMUS
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Posted on 12/9/15 at 10:42 am to
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How has this thread not been anchored yet?


Who cares? If people want to have a discussion about a topic isn't that what this board is for?
Posted by bnh
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Posted on 12/9/15 at 2:09 pm to
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STM their 4th timeout of the half


Are you fricking retarded? How many times must you be told STM only had 3 timeouts. You won. Be happy. Stop being a tard. If you don't believe it just watch the replay
Posted by NOSTRODAMUS
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Posted on 12/12/15 at 7:22 pm to


I just came across this picture which will settle the debate. Runner Knees not down. Ball in Kavanaugh's arm before goal line.
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 12/13/15 at 11:14 am to
Never mind first STM TD was sprung by not only a hold but a hold by face mask on a d lineman....
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
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Posted on 12/13/15 at 11:27 am to
STM o line has a couple of really good tacklers maybe should have played them on d line
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
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Posted on 12/13/15 at 11:30 am to
And there was the fumble clearly out before he crossed the goal line....that call was correct
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 12/13/15 at 12:00 pm to
And five was down on pbs fumble

And call me crazy but isn't it ineligible downfield when a line men is more than five yards downfield on a forward pass?
This post was edited on 12/13/15 at 12:08 pm
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