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Posted on 3/25/11 at 12:46 pm to DEANintheYAY
he was only 15 ft away.. lol. If a ss can't throw around a guy that close...
Posted on 3/25/11 at 12:46 pm to DEANintheYAY
nice
Posted on 3/25/11 at 12:48 pm to iggle
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he was only 15 ft away.. lol. If a ss can't throw around a guy that close
running toward him, runner is 6'3 and ss is 5'8....believe me, we are not the most skilled team in the state, but luckily the rule book doesn't pertain to skill
Posted on 3/25/11 at 12:49 pm to Boudreaux35
what if he avoids the play but is still hit?
Posted on 3/25/11 at 12:49 pm to Oopskie
There is no call... it just continues.
Posted on 3/25/11 at 12:50 pm to Oopskie
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running toward him, runner is 6'3 and ss is 5'8
if he's trying to throw over his head, he has a problem.
Posted on 3/25/11 at 12:52 pm to iggle
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runner has a right to the base path. As long as he's not waving his arms around trying to hit the ball, or leaning in toward it unnaturally or something, there's no interference. The shortstop is supposed to step aside and throw around the runner, not assume he's gonna duck or move out the way.
agree
and the second the SS touches second base he's not obligated to become a ghost
Rather the runner will typically do anything within the rules to break up the play... for example: start a hard slide into second just before being out
Posted on 3/25/11 at 12:52 pm to iggle
Interference is a judgement call, as I stated early. Plus it has to be seen clearly. In HS, with a 2 man crew, when the 1st out is made at 2B, the umpire usually immediately turns to 1B. Normally the plate ump is suppose to watch for interference. However, in this case, he was also having to keep his eye on the runner at 3rd.
Tough call, and I'm sure the other coach saw it a different way.
Tough call, and I'm sure the other coach saw it a different way.
Posted on 3/25/11 at 12:56 pm to Boudreaux35
This is why you throw at the runners HEAD. Duck or eat it in the face.
Posted on 3/25/11 at 12:57 pm to molsusports
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Rather the runner will typically do anything within the rules to break up the play... for example: start a hard slide into second just before being out
And this can be judged to be interference, if the umpire sees it as intentional. I know lots of coaches teach this tactic, but it is not within the rules.
Posted on 3/25/11 at 12:59 pm to Oopskie
out at second
safe at first
safe at home
ball game
safe at first
safe at home
ball game
Posted on 3/25/11 at 1:00 pm to hehateme2285
I'm an x-college umpire. Everything remains alive and the run scores. The fielder has to throw around that runner. If the runner does nothing to intentioanlly get in the way of the throw, then there is no interference.
Posted on 3/25/11 at 1:00 pm to Boudreaux35
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And this can be judged to be interference, if the umpire sees it as intentional. I know lots of coaches teach this tactic, but it is not within the rules.
by common practice it is... unless you slide away from the base to just hit the fielder
You will NEVER be called out for interference if you slide hard at the base before the fielder tags the base
Posted on 3/25/11 at 1:05 pm to RedShirt
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I'm an x-college umpire. Everything remains alive and the run scores. The fielder has to throw around that runner. If the runner does nothing to intentioanlly get in the way of the throw, then there is no interference.
This makes sense. However, if the ump calls dead ball (whether correct or not), then the runner would have to return to third.
Posted on 3/25/11 at 1:06 pm to mylsuhat
From MLB Rulebook:
(e) Any batter or runner who has just been put out, or any runner who has just scored,
hinders or impedes any following play being made on a runner. Such runner shall
be declared out for the interference of his teammate;
Rule 7.09(e) Comment: If the batter or a runner continues to advance after he has been put out, he shall not by that act alone be considered as confusing, hindering or impeding the fielders.
(e) Any batter or runner who has just been put out, or any runner who has just scored,
hinders or impedes any following play being made on a runner. Such runner shall
be declared out for the interference of his teammate;
Rule 7.09(e) Comment: If the batter or a runner continues to advance after he has been put out, he shall not by that act alone be considered as confusing, hindering or impeding the fielders.
Posted on 3/25/11 at 1:07 pm to RedShirt
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I'm an x-college umpire. Everything remains alive and the run scores. The fielder has to throw around that runner. If the runner does nothing to intentioanlly get in the way of the throw, then there is no interference.
that's why in college we were taught to throw the ball right between his fricking eyes if he didn't get down.
Posted on 3/25/11 at 1:08 pm to hehateme2285
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The runner at first is safe, run scores, as long as he was in the basepath, and not within sliding distance. One out.
This is correct.
Posted on 3/25/11 at 1:10 pm to DEANintheYAY
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If the batter or a runner continues to advance after he has been put out, he shall not by that act alone be considered as confusing, hindering or impeding the fielders.
It is physically impossible to stop all of your momentum and disappear from the field of play the instant you might be out
This rule is just intended to prevent flagrant interference - not to penalize a guy who was out less than a second or two before the fielder wanted to throw where he is running or standing
IMO OP is upset his fielder made an error and is trying to blame the other team instead.
Posted on 3/25/11 at 1:11 pm to TigersRuleTheEarth
This happened in the World Series, Yankees vs Dodgers, I believe that ball hit Reggie Jackson.
I think they had a mike on Tommy Lasorda, he was pissed.
I think they had a mike on Tommy Lasorda, he was pissed.
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