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re: WojBomb: CP3 to Suns
Posted on 11/16/20 at 12:29 pm to Boomshockalocka
Posted on 11/16/20 at 12:29 pm to Boomshockalocka
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With the way he played in the playoffs v GSW, he looked done. It was as bad as he ever looked. Then, after getting trade away, he took
It Real hard And decided to make some serious changes,
Got to wonder how negatively Harden had a role in that, we might see something similar after Westbrook leaves
If Harden moves teams I think he could become a great robin
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Posted on 11/16/20 at 12:29 pm to Fun Bunch
quote:If a Harden trade happens their Houston picks get a pretty big bump in value.
Word is they want to trade some assets to get Lamelo.
Posted on 11/16/20 at 12:31 pm to rockiee
Prob not much. if the dude can’t keep himself healthy and in shape that is on him as a professional. I know the blame shifting culture of today would want to blame another person. But that dog don’t hunt.
Posted on 11/16/20 at 12:35 pm to Boomshockalocka
I'm so excited we did this without giving up Cam or Mikal, but oh my gosh, I'm devastated to say goodbye to Kelly. 
Posted on 11/16/20 at 12:57 pm to Boomshockalocka
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I know the blame shifting culture of today would want to blame another person.
True, which is why we shouldn't shift any off of Harden
We are seeing a bad pattern regarding Harden's robin, aren't we?
Posted on 11/16/20 at 1:01 pm to rockiee
Yep. Harden has a better career playoff on off than lebron. He has been more hurt by his robins lack of production when he is off the court than almost anyone.
Read this for a good laugh.
Jordan himself wouldn’t have won with that kinda production out his sidekick.
Read this for a good laugh.
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The 2-0 deficit leading into Game 3 presented a real pressure situation for Houston but the team responded in emphatic fashion, winning both games with Harden scoring 38 and 41 points in Games 3 and 4. Paul on the other hand chipped in just 14 and 13 points and frankly hadn’t played well for the series at all. (Harden would average 34.8 points for the series to Paul’s 16.7). Game 5 was a huge missed opportunity for the team, with Paul scoring 11 points on 3-14 shooting, compared to Harden’s 31.
Jordan himself wouldn’t have won with that kinda production out his sidekick. 
Posted on 11/16/20 at 1:02 pm to Boomshockalocka
Wait..... you are saying Harden has been better in the playoffs over the years than Lebron???????? Wow. You just took stupid to another level.
Posted on 11/16/20 at 1:03 pm to Boomshockalocka
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I know the blame shifting culture of today would want to blame another person
Keep being your retarded self Pinata
This post was edited on 11/16/20 at 1:04 pm
Posted on 11/16/20 at 1:06 pm to dukke v
I see You are not very up to date on your stats and what they mean. I said that hardens teams have been worse when he is off the floor than lebrons has.
Ie harden has a better playoff on off than bron.
Ie harden has a better playoff on off than bron.
Posted on 11/16/20 at 1:09 pm to rt3
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OKC has turned Westbrook/Paul George into Oubre/Rubio/Lecque/Jerome/8 First Round Picks/Gallinari/SGA/2 Pick Swaps
Posted on 11/16/20 at 1:10 pm to rt3
I’m just happy for jackwoods4. He’s suffered long enough.
Posted on 11/16/20 at 1:17 pm to Boomshockalocka
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I see You are not very up to date on your stats and what they mean. I said that hardens teams have been worse when he is off the floor than lebrons has.
Ie harden has a better playoff on off than bron
On/Off is a good stat to use to show the importance a specific player has to a specific team, and is even better when used to help illustrate roster shortfalls. But using it to compare Player A to Player B on different teams is misleading.
This post was edited on 11/16/20 at 1:24 pm
Posted on 11/16/20 at 1:25 pm to PrimeTime Money
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He’s suffered long enough.
At this point I'm just waiting until Devin one-ups Eric Bledsoe by saying how he wants to leave PHX after forgetting to mute himself while streaming Call of Duty.
Posted on 11/16/20 at 1:35 pm to Baron
Not in the context I used it.
Harden has been more let down by his teammates than lebron has, when both players are off the court, in the playoffs.
Harden has been more let down by his teammates than lebron has, when both players are off the court, in the playoffs.
Posted on 11/16/20 at 1:48 pm to Boomshockalocka
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Jordan himself wouldn’t have won with that kinda production out his sidekick.
To be fair, Jordan would never let that happen. Harden can try but doesn't have that leader in him but not everyone is made to be a batman and there is nothing wrong with that
Posted on 11/16/20 at 1:51 pm to rockiee
There is not one rockets team that harden has been on in Houston where you could say, replace harden with x, and Houston wins the title. there is not one player in league history. No Jordan, no lebron, no one.
Could lebron or a mike win with a robin like Injured russ last year, or chris the year before. Heavens no.
Could lebron or a mike win with a robin like Injured russ last year, or chris the year before. Heavens no.
Posted on 11/16/20 at 1:57 pm to Boomshockalocka
Are you talking about overall or specific years?
Because last year, the Lakers in the playoffs were +15.3 better when LeBron was on the floor vs off. The Rockets were only +9.8 with Harden on the floor.
In the 2019 and 2018 playoffs (the ones you were complaining about), the Rockets were +7.2 and +21.1 with Harden on the floor. One good and one phenomenal number.
In the 2018 and 2017 playoffs (using ‘17 because LeBron missed ‘19 playoffs), the Cavs were +7.5 and +30.7 with LeBron on the floor.
If you want to go further, in the ‘17 playoffs, the Rockets were actually worse when Harden was on the floor than off (-3.6). Yet in the ‘16 playoffs, the Cavs were again significantly better with LeBron on the floor (+20).
Look, I’m not saying that LeBron hasn’t had a better Robin in his career than Harden, but using On/Off to prove your point is not the way to go. That’s not how that stat should be used
Because last year, the Lakers in the playoffs were +15.3 better when LeBron was on the floor vs off. The Rockets were only +9.8 with Harden on the floor.
In the 2019 and 2018 playoffs (the ones you were complaining about), the Rockets were +7.2 and +21.1 with Harden on the floor. One good and one phenomenal number.
In the 2018 and 2017 playoffs (using ‘17 because LeBron missed ‘19 playoffs), the Cavs were +7.5 and +30.7 with LeBron on the floor.
If you want to go further, in the ‘17 playoffs, the Rockets were actually worse when Harden was on the floor than off (-3.6). Yet in the ‘16 playoffs, the Cavs were again significantly better with LeBron on the floor (+20).
Look, I’m not saying that LeBron hasn’t had a better Robin in his career than Harden, but using On/Off to prove your point is not the way to go. That’s not how that stat should be used
This post was edited on 11/16/20 at 1:58 pm
Posted on 11/16/20 at 1:58 pm to Boomshockalocka
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Could lebron or a mike win with a robin like Injured russ last year, or chris the year before. Heavens no.
You might be right, the problem is they wouldn't put themselves in positions like that
Being a leader doesn't start when you walk on the court
Posted on 11/16/20 at 2:33 pm to Boomshockalocka
Well I guess I was just confused why you would complain about the Robins of the last few years then. Do you mind posting a link for your claim? Not disagreeing but would like to see it. I would also argue that career on/off is an even worse way to make your point.
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