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re: Will split tricle down into other sports?

Posted on 12/15/13 at 8:48 pm to
Posted by CyrustheVirus
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Posted on 12/15/13 at 8:48 pm to
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In lhsaa football, as in many other states, private and public schools have separate playoff and state championship games to make up for the fact that public schools cannot recruit kids out of other districts.


Plenty of public schools do this. All they have to do is get a kid to move into their district and they are eligible right away. Or just give the parent a job at the school and the kid is eligible.
Posted by Shoulderchoke
Swamps of Lafourche
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Posted on 12/15/13 at 8:53 pm to
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Hopeful doc Compare average margin of victory this year to years past It's watered down


All but one game last year ended in double digit victories


I agree that it is a little watered down, but I was happy to see teams like Kinder and Union win. Especially Union who had lost a player earlier this season. Any other year Union gets beat by Curtis by 45.

The only definitive #1 we couldn't determine was 1A. I would have loved to see Haynesville and Vermilion Catholic play. Both teams were very talented this year. It sucks, but that's me being selfish. VC was able to win in memory of their schools priest who passed away.
Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 12/15/13 at 8:55 pm to
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Plenty of public schools do this. All they have to do is get a kid to move into their district and they are eligible right away. Or just give the parent a job at the school and the kid is eligible.


Sure. But it's not nearly as common/feasible as a private school offering a scholarship to a kid.
Posted by CyrustheVirus
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Posted on 12/15/13 at 8:58 pm to
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But it's not nearly as common/feasible as a private school offering a scholarship to a kid.


Well a private school kid will have to sit out a year where the publics dont have to. That doesnt make up for it?
Posted by The Boat
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Posted on 12/15/13 at 9:00 pm to
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In Louisiana it does come into play in football, but not so much in basketball and baseball


Mostly black public schools are better than white private schools at basketball, and a lot of public schools don't care about baseball.

So there probably won't ever be a split of anything other than football.
Posted by Hopeful Doc
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Posted on 12/15/13 at 9:03 pm to
For the Catholic schools specifically, so long as the school is in the diocese, they don't have to sit out at all.
Sitting out the freshman year to cross the diocese lines doesn't mean much. Unless I'm mistaken, they're only intelligible for varsity competition. They are still allowed to practice and I believe many participate at the freshman/JV level. There's not many people that are going to be big contributors as freshman. It does help level the playing field, but when given the choice 'go to the school you're supposed to go to by the way the lines are drawn or come to this one that we are giving you a scholarship to and you will not have to pay tuition' when you are talking about schools in the same town/zoning, many that are offered the scholarships would take them, pulling from the local public school with no consequence.
Posted by RedMustang
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 12/15/13 at 9:04 pm to
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Posted by CyrustheVirus quote: But it's not nearly as common/feasible as a private school offering a scholarship to a kid. Well a private school kid will have to sit out a year where the publics dont have to. That doesnt make up for it?


Wow, that's interesting. Our public school kids gave to sit out a year unless their parents move into the new district.
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 12/15/13 at 9:33 pm to
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For the Catholic schools specifically, so long as the school is in the diocese, they don't have to sit out at all.




Yeah, that's not true at all.
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 12/15/13 at 9:35 pm to
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Sure. But it's not nearly as common/feasible as a private school offering a scholarship to a kid.


Do you have any proof, whatsoever, of private schools offering scholarships?
Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 12/15/13 at 9:35 pm to
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Yeah, that's not true at all.


It most definitively is in SWLA.
Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 12/15/13 at 9:36 pm to
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Do you have any proof, whatsoever, of private schools offering scholarships?


Just anecdotal ones of friends and a family member that were offered.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
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Posted on 12/15/13 at 9:36 pm to
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Apart from the first and maybe 2nd game of the playoffs, how is this system 'watered down?'

how many rounds is the playoffs? 2 rounds out of 4/5 is a significant portion
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 12/15/13 at 9:38 pm to
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It most definitively is in SWLA.


Nope.

The rule is that every private school as a corresponding public school zone. For instance, if private school A sits within public school Z's zone, then private school A's zone is the same zone as public school Z. Any student who lives in Z's zone and attends A is eligible for varsity sports immediately. Any student who lives outside Z's zone and attends A is ineligible their first year.
Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 12/15/13 at 9:40 pm to
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how many rounds is the playoffs? 2 rounds out of 4/5 is a significant portion


Championship = game 5. There are some rather poor teams in the first round that are mostly eliminated by the first week. Is the road to the show or the big event the big deal? There were teams with losing records in the first round of the playoffs back when I was in school, too. A district champ gets an automatic bid, regardless of seed.
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 12/15/13 at 9:40 pm to
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Just anecdotal ones of friends and a family member that were offered.


Well then you or your friends should turn the school in because that is absolutely a recruiting violation under LHSAA rules.
Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
15057 posts
Posted on 12/15/13 at 9:43 pm to
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The rule is that every private school as a corresponding public school zone. For instance, if private school A sits within public school Z's zone, then private school A's zone is the same zone as public school Z. Any student who lives in Z's zone and attends A is eligible for varsity sports immediately. Any student who lives outside Z's zone and attends A is ineligible their first year.


Hmm. In the area I lived, it was a 15 minute drive to the nearest Catholic school. It was out of diocese and required you to sit out a year. One that was 30 minutes away, however, did not require the year out, as it was part of the diocese. Perhaps leeway is given in more rural areas of the state where private schools are less common?
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48361 posts
Posted on 12/15/13 at 9:45 pm to
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Hmm. In the area I lived, it was a 15 minute drive to the nearest Catholic school. It was out of diocese and required you to sit out a year. One that was 30 minutes away, however, did not require the year out, as it was part of the diocese. Perhaps leeway is given in more rural areas of the state where private schools are less common?


No. It all depends on the public school district where the private school sits and where the student lives. It has nothing to do with the diocese.
Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 12/15/13 at 9:46 pm to
I guess I misunderstood this part. Happen to have a link to anywhere it is spelled out with the individual zones?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 12/15/13 at 9:47 pm to
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Is the road to the show or the big event the big deal?

if they cut the sport in half, they should cut the seeds in half. it's only logical
Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
15057 posts
Posted on 12/15/13 at 9:50 pm to
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if they cut the sport in half, they should cut the seeds in half. it's only logical


No argument. But I don't think the number (on the public side) was quite 'halved.' Regardless, even if you cut the seeds in half, what's the difference between a week of no games and a week of blowouts + potential for upset?
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