re: Why wouldn't every team want Michael Vick

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2. Speed is there and he becomes a very good RB.

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This one.

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He killed dogs, which is much, much, much worse than killing a human being.

It doesn't matter if he shows genuine remorse, works with the Humane Society, and donates a portion of his check to animal shelters. It doesn't matter that he's paid his debt to society.

You can not ever, ever kill a dog. Only the lowest creature ever to walk the earth would do so.

He should never be allowed to breathe again.

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I think the torture aspect is more concerning to me. People who torture animals generally have very deep seeded psychological problems. This guy is completely insane IMO. I'd sign him though.

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killed dogs, which is much, much, much worse than killing a human being.

It doesn't matter if he shows genuine remorse, works with the Humane Society, and donates a portion of his check to animal shelters. It doesn't matter that he's paid his debt to society.

You can not ever, ever kill a dog. Only the lowest creature ever to walk the earth would do so.

He should never be allowed to breathe again.

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this is the first time i think i've ever agreed with you, but seriously, 100% agree.

It's f'ing ridiculous what they are putting him through owning dogs, training dogs, and a few of them dying. so the frick what?

now, all these people feel like he needs to be further punished by goodell and the league. Or serve time with community service. Let it go. Let the man get back to his life and give him a chance for redemption.

I wouldn't want him on a team I root for first off. Second, everyone says he deserves a second chance which I agree with but where is the rule that the chance SHOULD be in football? Isn't flipping burgers at Mickey D's a second chance?

I question what MV has done in the past for people to be so high on his talent. When exactly has he won or lead his team to some big victory? What kind of leader has he been?

Teams have 55 or so players on their roster. Is bringing MV in important enough to upset some of those 55 dudes? Not everyone on the roster will be 100% for or against him, seems like it would not be worth the risk to possibly split your locker room in half for a dog killer IMHO

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Teams have 55 or so players on their roster. Is bringing MV in important enough to upset some of those 55 dudes? Not everyone on the roster will be 100% for or against him, seems like it would not be worth the risk to possibly split your locker room in half for a dog killer IMHO

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I'd think most people in the NFL laugh at the outrage over Vick.lol. Nobody wants Charles Grant, Marvin Harriosn or Pacman banned and they were involved in shootings, nobody is against them on their team so I doubt if they'd be against Vick.

ETA: Guys that are involved in shootings are way more dangerous than Vick. Piss those guys off or try to fight them they'd pull a gun on you. What Vick pulled a gun on a dog.lol.

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Child molesters living in a neighborhood where there are children is a whole hell of a lot different from playing a sport where there are no dogs. If you can't see that, then you're fricking blind.

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What do dogs being associated with sports have to do with this? The guy did an unforgivable crime and he has to live with it.

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or dumb, which he sounds like by comparin a child molester. pedo's are predators that stalk, and victimize innocent kids, and murder them afterwards, ridiculous comparison.

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So Vick didn't victimize and murder innocent dogs?

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People that molest children are actually mentally fricked up somehow. Whether they do it again or not, they WANT TO DO IT AGAIN. They are way more of a threat then someone who got busted doing the things Vick has.

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Animal abuse is a precursor to being a serial killer. It has been proved.

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Give it up. Pacman put a HIT out on people, hang out with gangbangers, etc. Pacman Threaten to kill someone for looking at his "girl" at a strip club. Who is more dangerous, Vick or Pacman.lol.

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What does Pacman have to do with this? Rya Lewis is still in the league, we are talking about Vick.

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honestly, I'll probably take some hits for this comment, but I got thick skin, I think it's a general view that black people don't value dogs lives as much as white people, the dog fighting thing is a sport to them, no big deal.

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Black people don't value the idea of being a father either, but that doesn't make it right.

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I guess it has to do with where you live, right? seems like that segment you live in in Mizzou is mostly white and fight dogs, but in other parts of the country black people do the same thing.

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True. I live in Southwest Missouri on the border of Kansas and Oklahoma and about 40min from the Arkansas border.lol.

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Teams have 55 or so players on their roster. Is bringing MV in important enough to upset some of those 55 dudes?

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If he's better than one of those guys? Yes.

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Is bringin MV in important enough to upset some of those 55 dudes?

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sorry, df, Vick has never been a cancer in the locker room, just the opposite guys love him.

You made a general statement that Blacks don't value fatherhood, which is false.

Lower income people tend to have more broken homes than middle and upper income people, yet you focused only on Black people. Middle class Blacks tend to have both parents raising the children, just as middle class whites do.

So your focus on race is tragically flawed.

But that's OK. It's better to know where people like you are rather than the ones who go behind your back...