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Why would you or would you not support 12 team playoff?
Posted on 10/31/17 at 9:25 am
Posted on 10/31/17 at 9:25 am
Make it like the rest of the NCAA and keep the bowls intact.
You take a representative from of all the conferences (determined by how each conference wants to choose them) in FBS. 1 wildcard and top Independent, based on whatever formula the AFCA chooses, make it transparent. this team can not be seeded higher than 5, to reward winners of conferences. Use a committee to seed the bracket.
Then play the first round games at home sites. Use the NY6 bowls as Quarter and Semi Finals. Then keep the NCG.
Play the first round games the week after Conference Championship Games, give off until Jan 1, then play the next 2 weekends.
You take a representative from of all the conferences (determined by how each conference wants to choose them) in FBS. 1 wildcard and top Independent, based on whatever formula the AFCA chooses, make it transparent. this team can not be seeded higher than 5, to reward winners of conferences. Use a committee to seed the bracket.
Then play the first round games at home sites. Use the NY6 bowls as Quarter and Semi Finals. Then keep the NCG.
Play the first round games the week after Conference Championship Games, give off until Jan 1, then play the next 2 weekends.
This post was edited on 10/31/17 at 9:28 am
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Posted on 10/31/17 at 9:29 am to sms151t
12 is for too many. I would like to see a final 6, with the top two seeds getting a bye week.
Posted on 10/31/17 at 9:30 am to sms151t
8 or 16
12 creates an uneven bracket with byes. I don't like byes.
12 creates an uneven bracket with byes. I don't like byes.
Posted on 10/31/17 at 9:31 am to sms151t
if we are keeping five power conferences, 6 or 8 team playoff is enough...let's you get 5 conference champions plus 1-3 at-larges...12 is a bad idea...
Posted on 10/31/17 at 9:31 am to sms151t
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You take a representative from of all the conferences (determined by how each conference wants to choose them) in FBS.
Because 3 loss winners of the American Conference (Temple 2016 is the example) don't deserve a "shot" at the title that a playoff would give them. It is inherently unfair to the other teams.
And again, while March Madness is a fun event, it is a terrible way to determine a champion, and therefore I do not support a similar system in college football.
This post was edited on 10/31/17 at 9:34 am
Posted on 10/31/17 at 9:31 am to PearlJam
But the NFL has byes and that seems to work.
My response would be then we are not trying to have a true national championship. I do not disagree with your statement. What are we trying to do name a champion or find the best team?
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Because 9-4 winners of the American Conference (Temple 2016 is the example) don't deserve a "shot" at the title that a playoff would give them. It is inherently unfair to the other teams.
My response would be then we are not trying to have a true national championship. I do not disagree with your statement. What are we trying to do name a champion or find the best team?
This post was edited on 10/31/17 at 9:33 am
Posted on 10/31/17 at 9:32 am to Chicken
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five power conferences, 6 or 8 team playoff is enough...let's you get 5 conference champions plus 1-3 at-larges
The 5 conference winners plus 3 at large for 8 total is the ideal answer
Posted on 10/31/17 at 9:33 am to sms151t
people are gonna complain no matter what. i hope for arguement sake ucf goes undefeated.
i think 6 would be better and use the nfl format, but since we have opened the door to 4, where does it stop? 8, 16, 32?
i think 6 would be better and use the nfl format, but since we have opened the door to 4, where does it stop? 8, 16, 32?
Posted on 10/31/17 at 9:36 am to Winston Cup
It should be a 6 team playoff
Power 5 conference champs + 1 wildcard/worthy independent
season's #1 & #2 get first week byes thus keeping the regular season relevent
12 team playoff would be too many games played for college athletes.
Power 5 conference champs + 1 wildcard/worthy independent
season's #1 & #2 get first week byes thus keeping the regular season relevent
12 team playoff would be too many games played for college athletes.
This post was edited on 10/31/17 at 9:37 am
Posted on 10/31/17 at 9:36 am to sms151t
quote:I didn't say they don't work. I'm just not a fan of them.
But the NFL has byes and that seems to work.
Posted on 10/31/17 at 9:36 am to sms151t
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My response would be then we are not trying to have a true national championship. I do not disagree with your statement. What are we trying to do name a champion or find the best team?
If we were really trying to figure out the best team and therefore the champion, we probably wouldn't have a playoff system at all.
The inherent problem is the size of the "league" (FBS). You would do it similarly to soccer where everyone just plays everyone and who does the best over the season is the winner. This can only be done by segmenting off a portion into another higher division of football.
In the NFL, the closest they could do is round robin conference schedules and then those two teams play for the championship.
Any type of arbitrary playoff system that grants 2nd, 3rd or 4th chances to teams is inherently unfair to teams who did what they were supposed to do the previous 10 weeks.
This post was edited on 10/31/17 at 9:38 am
Posted on 10/31/17 at 9:36 am to Teddy Ruxpin
quote:
Because 3 loss winners of the American Conference (Temple 2016 is the example) don't deserve a "shot" at the title that a playoff would give them. It is inherently unfair to the other teams.
And again, while March Madness is a fun event, it is a terrible way to determine a champion, and therefore I do not support a similar system in college football.
This is the correct answer.
Posted on 10/31/17 at 9:37 am to Tigeralum2008
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12 team playoff would be too many games played for college athletes.
Yet FCS, D2, D3, NAIA can play that many games, as can some high schools?
This post was edited on 10/31/17 at 9:38 am
Posted on 10/31/17 at 9:37 am to Tigeralum2008
quote:FCS, div 2 and high schools all do it with more teams in a playoff.
12 team playoff would be too many games played for college athletes.
Posted on 10/31/17 at 9:38 am to RLDSC FAN
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12 is for too many. I would like to see a final 6, with the top two seeds getting a bye week.
Why is 12 too many? The NFL has 12 teams in its playoffs out of 32 teams overall (~38% of the league). I don't think anyone complains that is too many? College football would have 12 out of 120+ teams (~10% of the teams) make the playoffs. It's "too many" because college football fans are so conditioned to everything being decided by the polls. Get rid of conf. championship games and bowl games. Start the playoffs in the first week of December.
Honestly, and I think we'll get there one day, my dream would be to have the 5 big conferences split off into their own league. At that point, a 6 or 8 team playoff would be fine
Posted on 10/31/17 at 9:39 am to Teddy Ruxpin
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Any type of arbitrary playoff system that grants 2nd, 3rd or 4th chances to teams is inherently unfair to teams who did what they were supposed to do the previous 10 weeks.
But they did do what they were supposed to do by winning their conference.
Posted on 10/31/17 at 9:39 am to Alt26
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Why is 12 too many? The NFL has 12 teams in its playoffs out of 32 teams overall (~38% of the league). I don't think anyone complains that is too many?
The NFL playoff system is fundamentally flawed when 7-9 teams can make the playoffs and win the Super Bowl. It is theoretically possible to have a 10-9 Super Bowl Champion. How is that not awful?
Posted on 10/31/17 at 9:40 am to Teddy Ruxpin
quote:Using 10 weeks to try to arbitrarily determine the best 4 teams among a group of 120 teams with significantly unballanced schedules is more arbitrary than a larger playoff system.
Any type of arbitrary playoff system that grants 2nd, 3rd or 4th chances to teams is inherently unfair to teams who did what they were supposed to do the previous 10 weeks.
This post was edited on 10/31/17 at 9:41 am
Posted on 10/31/17 at 9:40 am to sms151t
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But they did do what they were supposed to do by winning their conference.
This requires a willful ignorance I'm just not willing to get into regarding the competition that team is facing week in and week out.
Posted on 10/31/17 at 9:40 am to sms151t
4 is plenty. The semifinals are already blowouts. With 12 you have teams getting in that lost 3 games. For teams in weak P5 conferences like the SEC this year, the ACC and B1G in past years, avoiding three losses is pretty easy.
Go back and look at Ohio State's end of season ranking since 2000. I bet they would've made it all but one or two years under a 12 team system. That is a boring regular season. Why take the best college football games and put them in a month when students aren't even campus?
Go back and look at Ohio State's end of season ranking since 2000. I bet they would've made it all but one or two years under a 12 team system. That is a boring regular season. Why take the best college football games and put them in a month when students aren't even campus?
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