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Why we may be reaching a tipping point for the Power Five to break away from the FBS
Posted on 5/28/20 at 6:37 pm
Posted on 5/28/20 at 6:37 pm
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University of Utah economist Ted Tatos was asked to consider whether the coronavirus could impact a second consecutive NCAA Tournament. While schools are eagerly anticipating a return of college football, let's not forget how this historic moment in time began in the college sports world.
Despite the pandemic, the NCAA's foundation has already been in question. But during these uncertain times, the association may be one more calamitous event away from slipping off a cliff of relevancy.
"If there's no NCAA Tournament next year," Tatos said. "… I think then there has to be a breakaway from this model."
To put it more plainly, a separation of the Power Five conferences from the NCAA has long been possible. Those 65 schools, including independent Notre Dame, already exist as separate entities -- financially, competitively and even corporately. But with the coronavirus ratcheting up the stakes, a tipping point may be at hand
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Posted on 5/28/20 at 6:38 pm to WestCoastAg
CUSA taking everybody. Power 6.
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There’s going to be a NCAAT next year
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If there's no NCAA Tournament next year," Tatos said. "… I think then there has to be a breakaway from this model."
There’s going to be a NCAAT next year
This post was edited on 5/28/20 at 6:39 pm
Posted on 5/28/20 at 7:01 pm to WestCoastAg
College sports are so strange because the NCAA tournament helps the NCAA run all of its other tournaments. But, the NCAA doesn't really govern football postseason. That is outsourced to CFP and bowls. But, football's regular season helps fund each school's individual programs.
So, if the power five break away, does that kill the NCAA basketball tournament? And, will power fives just play each other in football? That would be pretty cool. But, there would be something sad about MAC type schools possibly losing their athletic programs. Would we see less guys like Big Ben and Greg Jennings in the NFL after the new model?
So, if the power five break away, does that kill the NCAA basketball tournament? And, will power fives just play each other in football? That would be pretty cool. But, there would be something sad about MAC type schools possibly losing their athletic programs. Would we see less guys like Big Ben and Greg Jennings in the NFL after the new model?
Posted on 5/28/20 at 7:02 pm to burdman
College athletics are in for some significant changes and the way athletics is funded makes no sense
On the backs of football and basketball players you are funding a bunch of minor sports and women’s sports
Things will change because the virus is cutting off the entire funding model of collegiate athletics and the only sports to save it will be football and basketball
On the backs of football and basketball players you are funding a bunch of minor sports and women’s sports
Things will change because the virus is cutting off the entire funding model of collegiate athletics and the only sports to save it will be football and basketball
Posted on 5/28/20 at 7:10 pm to Bunk Moreland
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So, if the power five break away, does that kill the NCAA basketball tournament?
Are you going to watch march madness with no power 5 teams in it?
Posted on 5/28/20 at 7:15 pm to Oilfieldbiology
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Are you going to watch march madness with no power 5 teams in it?
It would probably be awesome.
I know that a similar football tournament would be amazing.
Posted on 5/28/20 at 7:16 pm to WestCoastAg
I've been saying this. Make a national super conference, leaving out the Wazzu's and Mississippi's of the P5; then divide it into divisions
Posted on 5/28/20 at 7:19 pm to Bunk Moreland
quote:Yes because you eliminate all the big name schools if the Power 5 breaks away. All you’re left with is a bunch of mid majors. They’ll still host a tourney but without Power 5 schools, it’ll get about as much interest as the NIT does
So, if the power five break away, does that kill the NCAA basketball tournament?
Posted on 5/28/20 at 7:21 pm to WestCoastAg
I think it’ll happen at some point, but I think it’s a bad idea. College sports rely on tiers to keep fans of average power conference programs interested.
Take Miss State as an example. They have 1 winning conference record this century. How many fans are going to be interested when a great season for State is 6-6? How many fans are going to be interested in playing State when they are almost never better than 6-6?
Games between tiers allow programs to inflate their records. Like it or not, that’s needed for many programs to keep support
Take Miss State as an example. They have 1 winning conference record this century. How many fans are going to be interested when a great season for State is 6-6? How many fans are going to be interested in playing State when they are almost never better than 6-6?
Games between tiers allow programs to inflate their records. Like it or not, that’s needed for many programs to keep support
Posted on 5/28/20 at 7:21 pm to Tiger Prawn
That's all well and good and I don't really care about a 15 seed cinderella winning a round or two like many people do. But, a school that won two of the last four national titles wouldn't be able to participate.
Posted on 5/28/20 at 7:27 pm to KosmoCramer
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Are you going to watch march madness with no power 5 teams in it?
It would probably be awesome.
Posted on 5/28/20 at 7:31 pm to Mithridates6
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I've been saying this. Make a national super conference, leaving out the Wazzu's and Mississippi's of the P5; then divide it into divisions
Why would anyone watch it over the NFL then? To me the value proposition of college football is going to games with or hosting friends who went to the other schools. That’s not possible in the NFL because it’s a national league.
In my opinion, the regionalism of CFB is what makes it special. Without it, it’s just the NFL with worse players.
Posted on 5/29/20 at 6:37 am to TomRollTideRitter
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Why would anyone watch it over the NFL then?
Because it’s still their school, though I’m not so sure it would work as well as they think.
Posted on 5/29/20 at 7:02 am to TomRollTideRitter
quote:wtf? There is football outside of the P5
Games between tiers allow programs to inflate their records. Like it or not, that’s needed for many programs to keep support
You ever thought that it DEFLATES other teams records? ULM for example has to schedule a gauntlet for their budget, but they’d have more fans if they went to a few more bowls, which they miss by going 5-7 or 6-6 but being like 5-3 in the conference. Instead of scheduling appropriately in non conference they’ll have @LSU, @Auburn, and @somebody
This post was edited on 5/29/20 at 7:05 am
Posted on 5/29/20 at 9:21 am to chalmetteowl
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You ever thought that it DEFLATES other teams records? ULM for example has to schedule a gauntlet for their budget, but they’d have more fans if they went to a few more bowls, which they miss by going 5-7 or 6-6 but being like 5-3 in the conference. Instead of scheduling appropriately in non conference they’ll have @LSU, @Auburn, and @somebody
Maybe they’d have more fans. James Madison has lost 2 FCS games in 2 seasons I think, and they struggled to get more than 10k to go to their FCS playoff games.
The trade off of being a G5 team is you get paid to play some P5 teams in exchange for likely to taking a loss. Most programs are willing to do that because they know big wins like App State over Michigan, Troy over LSU, or ULM over Alabama and Arkansas are more valuable than being the B tier national champion.
Every college football fan remembers App State-Michigan. Does anyone know who App State played in the FCS title that year? The dream for these programs isn’t a national championship. It’s to knock off one of the major brands.
G5 teams also benefit from the tiers because they generally schedule an FCS opponent for a free win, and FCS teams often schedule DII opponents.
ULM also isn’t an inherently inferior program to any of the teams in its conference. It’s at a disadvantage to some of them, but it’s not like the gap between Kentucky and LSU.
This post was edited on 5/29/20 at 9:31 am
Posted on 5/29/20 at 9:29 am to KosmoCramer
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no power 5 teams in it?
quote:not really
I know that a similar football tournament would be amazing.
Posted on 5/29/20 at 9:40 am to WestCoastAg
This needs to happen eventually. This will allow leeches like UAB to finally wither away.
Posted on 5/29/20 at 12:23 pm to TomRollTideRitter
quote:that’s not unique to ULM’s level. Hell, VANDY has been a rent a win recently (defined as going on the road to a superior nonconference opponent without a return game, or if there is one, it’s not a 1 and 1 deal)
The trade off of being a G5 team is you get paid to play some P5 teams in exchange for likely to taking a loss.
This post was edited on 5/29/20 at 12:26 pm
Posted on 5/29/20 at 12:26 pm to RollTide1987
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This will allow leeches like UAB to finally wither away.
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Alabama Fan
Does compute
Posted on 5/29/20 at 1:00 pm to RollTide1987
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This needs to happen eventually. This will allow leeches like UAB to finally wither away.
frick you and frick the BoT you sidewalk piece of trash.
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