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Posted on 5/18/12 at 12:39 pm to
Posted by shel311
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Posted on 5/18/12 at 12:39 pm to
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I coulda swore Lebron or someone said something (before bosh got hurt) in which he was trying to soften the blow if they got bounced. It may have been after game 1


Bosh got hurt during game 1.

Lebron said playing PF was "taxing" after game 2.
Posted by Philosoraptor
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 5/18/12 at 12:41 pm to
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I coulda swore Lebron or someone said something (before bosh got hurt) in which he was trying to soften the blow if they got bounced. It may have been after game 1


yes he did... i forgot what it was though.

She1311, your "explanations" are excuses.

Even with just Wade and Lebron, they should be winning... at least until they get to the Finals.

And the whole role player's aren't good is another lame excuse. They should've gone and got better players.

Look at the Spurs... they pay the big 3 the same amount Miami does and look at their roster and how their role players are performing.
Posted by shel311
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Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 5/18/12 at 12:49 pm to
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She1311, your "explanations" are excuses
If so, then ALL explanations are excuses.

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Even with just Wade and Lebron, they should be winning... at least until they get to the Finals
That is EXACTLY what I said in this thread so...

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They should've gone and got better players

That's an excuse.
Posted by NawlinsTigah270
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Posted on 5/18/12 at 12:56 pm to
Wade and Battier going a combined 2-20 could have something to do with it
Posted by Philosoraptor
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 5/18/12 at 12:58 pm to
Well, they do explain some things but they are still excuses because we all know they are capable of winning at a high level.

They should win this series. But they won't because Lebron is a bitch on the court and Spoelstra is a bitch as a HC.
Posted by jturn17
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 5/18/12 at 1:28 pm to
I hope for the sake of the MSB that the Heat come back and win this series. The series is 2-1. It's not over. Can we please wait till the Pacers have actually beat them in 4 games to talk about what happened?

The Heat would be up 3-0 if Wade actually played like Dwyane Wade. The Heat don't need Bosh to beat the Pacers. They need the real DWade.
Posted by DownSouthCrawfish
Lift every voice and sing
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 5/18/12 at 1:39 pm to
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But they won't because Lebron is a bitch on the court


i think you're hating a little too hard.....dude is pulling his weight. Wade and Battier need to wake the hell up though....
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 5/18/12 at 1:44 pm to
Wade has been terrible

I wonder what the conversation between Spoelstra and him was like? "WTF is wrong with you?" "Any chance of a medivac out of here coach?"
Posted by Philosoraptor
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 5/18/12 at 1:45 pm to
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i think you're hating a little too hard.....dude is pulling his weight. Wade and Battier need to wake the hell up though....


No, he plays great... but when it comes to having some passion and ending games, he's a bitch.

I still think they are going to beat the Pacers but now I don't know if they can beat the Celtics, unless Bosh is back by then.
Posted by jturn17
Member since Jan 2011
4978 posts
Posted on 5/18/12 at 1:55 pm to
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I wonder what the conversation between Spoelstra and him was like?


Someone in the twitterverse said he read Spoelstra's lips saying "You're a team captain" at some point in the conversation. Whatever Spo said, Wade was not happy about it, and it still didn't inspire Wade to play any better.

That performance was worse than LeBron against the Mavs last year. At least LeBron was the focus on the Mavs D and was playing defense. Wade stood around all game and did absolutely nothing on offense and played lazy defense like it was still the regular season.

Sunday will be interesting to say the least.
Posted by theunknownknight
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Posted on 5/18/12 at 1:56 pm to
LEBRON HAS NO HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by theunknownknight
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Posted on 5/18/12 at 2:03 pm to
Chalmers is not one of the worst players on both teams. I call BS on that. If that's the case what does that say about Lebron and Wade, they deferred to him on the final shot in Game 2 and were outplayed by him in game 3.

Lebron lovers can't cheer a guy for running scared to a team with three max contract stars and then complain when that team can't afford decent role players.
This post was edited on 5/18/12 at 2:05 pm
Posted by ATLTiger
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Posted on 5/18/12 at 2:11 pm to
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I wonder what the conversation between Spoelstra and him was like?


"86 the John Starks impression, Dwyane"
Posted by bomber77
Member since Aug 2008
14783 posts
Posted on 5/18/12 at 2:14 pm to
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At least LeBron was the focus on the Mavs D and was playing defense.


Who exactly was he playing defense on?

Jason Kidd was on him for the last 2 games! Dallas didnt have to focus on him, he spent the series standing at the 3 point line with his thumb up his arse and passed off.

Wade sucks bad but James against the Mavs is unexplainable.
Posted by KG5989
Das Boot
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 5/18/12 at 2:33 pm to
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in game 3 last night or whenever it was, but in games 1 and 2 he shot something like 2 of 14.


This. I'll give Chalmers decent at best. If he is feeling it he will give you a game like last night. But rarely is he feeling it. I would take both Hill and Collison over Chalmers.
This post was edited on 5/18/12 at 2:37 pm
Posted by KG5989
Das Boot
Member since Oct 2010
16376 posts
Posted on 5/18/12 at 2:40 pm to
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Chalmers is not one of the worst players on both teams. I call BS on that


Ok Chalmers is better than Lou Amundson, I'll give you that. And maybe Psycho T/Barbosa, it's close. But that's about it.I wouldn't take Chalmers ahead of Hill or DC.

O and the real DWades dead bro...
This post was edited on 5/18/12 at 2:41 pm
Posted by jturn17
Member since Jan 2011
4978 posts
Posted on 5/18/12 at 2:55 pm to
I'd take Chalmers over Collison. Cole has been able to take Collison out offensively the past 2 games. He's a passing PG and he has 0 assists over the last 2 games. If Norris Cole is taking you out of games, there's an issue.

Regardless, your rankings are off. You've vastly overrated many IND players and underrated some Heat players. As such it's meaningless.

The Pacers aren't beating the Heat because they're a deeper team. They're being the Heat because they're healthy and the Heat aren't. And because Wade decided he'd rather go home at half-time of game G2.
Posted by KG5989
Das Boot
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 5/18/12 at 3:10 pm to
I would not take Chalmers over Collison. They put up very similar numbers this year stat wise, with DC having a little betters numbers. Also this series DC has only avg 18 minutes a game because George Hills size andD. It's a better match to have him on Wade. But DC is putting up just as good of numbers as Chalmers has this series. DC is putting up 8pts and 2 assts, Chalmers is avg 11 pts and 3 assts, but Chalmers is playing 30 mins a game. There very similair still. I just think DC is a better true PG and better at running an offense.

Who from the Heat would you put higher on the list besides Chalmers? Battier over Lou? I'll give you that 1
This post was edited on 5/18/12 at 3:12 pm
Posted by BayouBengals03
lsu14always
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 5/18/12 at 4:42 pm to
If the Heat lose in the conference semis with two of the top five players on the planet, that will be pretty funny regardless of the Bosh situation.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112939 posts
Posted on 5/18/12 at 4:44 pm to
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If the Heat lose in the conference semis with two of the top five players on the planet, that will be pretty funny regardless of the Bosh situation.
it would be a huge failure
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