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re: Why isn't Bob Stoops ranked higher among college coaches?

Posted on 5/12/14 at 7:41 pm to
Posted by Ostrich
Alexandria, VA
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Posted on 5/12/14 at 7:41 pm to
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he's top 5 easily


Yup.
Posted by Ostrich
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Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 5/12/14 at 7:43 pm to
Only coach to win all four BCS bowls and a title.
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
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Posted on 5/12/14 at 8:30 pm to
Big games and when it comes to sending players to NFL, does not do the best job considering his recruiting classes.
Posted by tigerman03
Metairie
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 5/12/14 at 8:36 pm to
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quote: You should. fricking Lubbock and Manhattan, KS???

Look what Saban brings to Tuscaloosa. All equally as appealing if you strip football history.



Stupid argument.
Posted by Ostrich
Alexandria, VA
Member since Nov 2011
9654 posts
Posted on 5/12/14 at 9:12 pm to
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Big games and when it comes to sending players to NFL, does not do the best job considering his recruiting classes.


Really?

AD, Gerald McCoy, Trent Williams, Demarco Murray, Sam Bradford, Phil Loadholt, etc
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 5/12/14 at 9:29 pm to
He is easily a top 5-7 coach. But because our warped sports culture views anything short of winning the title as failure and Stoops lost 3 straight BCS CG with 2 other BCS Bowls, people grossly under rate him, often falsly claiming he "always got blown out" in big games. Yes, they got blown out by USC, but lost to LSU by 7 (in New Orleans) and to Florida by 10 (in Miami). He also gets unfair grief for the Boise game in part because of the publicity of that game.

People also forget what a dumpster fire OU was in the 90's. He won a BCS Title, 8 conference titles and all 4 BCS bowl games.
This post was edited on 5/12/14 at 10:08 pm
Posted by SoonerMagic69
OKC
Member since May 2014
77 posts
Posted on 5/12/14 at 9:58 pm to
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He is easily a top 5-7 coach. But because your warped sports culture views anything short of winning the title as failure and Stoops lost 3 straight BCS CG with 2 other BCS Bowls, people grossly under rate him, often falsly claiming he "always got blown out" in big games. Yes, they got blown out by USC, but lost to LSU by 7 (in New Orleans) and to Florida by 14 (in Miami). He also gets unfair grief for the Boise game in part because of the publicity of that game.


This is what I'm saying. OU has rarely gotten "blown out" by anyone since Stoops has been in Norman. It takes a lot just to get in those games.
Posted by TH03
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Posted on 5/12/14 at 10:00 pm to
because he's achieved jack shite outside of one year
Posted by chillygentilly
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Posted on 5/12/14 at 10:01 pm to
He got his arse handed to him by Mack this year. That alone should knock him down 3 or 4 places.
Posted by Ostrich
Alexandria, VA
Member since Nov 2011
9654 posts
Posted on 5/12/14 at 10:03 pm to
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because he's achieved jack shite outside of one year


Good one
Posted by jose canseco
Houston via Houma via BR via NOLA
Member since Jul 2007
5667 posts
Posted on 5/12/14 at 10:04 pm to
He is one of the VERY few coaches I would trade Les for.

Reason why he is not talked about much is bc he has not been winning Championships lately. ESPN only covers first place and controversy.

eta - he is one of two college coaches I would trade Les for.
This post was edited on 5/12/14 at 10:07 pm
Posted by TigerBait2008
Boulder,CO
Member since Jun 2008
35673 posts
Posted on 5/12/14 at 10:07 pm to
Top 5?
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59992 posts
Posted on 5/12/14 at 10:08 pm to
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our warped sports culture views anything short of winning the title as failure


right on cue

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because he's achieved jack shite outside of one year
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59992 posts
Posted on 5/12/14 at 10:08 pm to
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Top 5?


give us your top 5 then.
Posted by Ostrich
Alexandria, VA
Member since Nov 2011
9654 posts
Posted on 5/12/14 at 10:14 pm to
1 title, 4 title appearances, 4 BCS wins, 8 conference titles, 2 heisman winners. No one not named Saban or Meyer has a better resume than that
Posted by SoonerMagic69
OKC
Member since May 2014
77 posts
Posted on 5/12/14 at 10:27 pm to
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1 title, 4 title appearances, 4 BCS wins, 8 conference titles, 2 heisman winners. No one not named Saban or Meyer has a better resume than that


I think Bob rubbed a lot of people the wrong way with how he used to leave the starters in when we would be up 50+. Not to mention the SEC comments. Thats the only reason I can think of, besides just hate for OU as a program, to not have him as a top 5 coach.
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
27880 posts
Posted on 5/12/14 at 10:38 pm to
Name one significant pro player that he has produced other than AP. I'll wait...

Gundy is the best coach in that state.
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 5/12/14 at 10:39 pm to
We had a legitimate chance at getting him back in late '09 when Meyer first retired.
Posted by SoonerMagic69
OKC
Member since May 2014
77 posts
Posted on 5/12/14 at 10:40 pm to
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Name one significant pro player that he has produced other than AP. I'll wait...

Gundy is the best coach in that state.


So success as a college coach is determined by producing good NFL players?

I guess Tom Osborne is pretty low on your All-Time list then.
Posted by Ostrich
Alexandria, VA
Member since Nov 2011
9654 posts
Posted on 5/12/14 at 10:41 pm to
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Name one significant pro player that he has produced other than AP. I'll wait... Gundy is the best coach in that state.


You're an idiot. Trent Williams, Demarco Murray, Gerald McCoy to name a few

Oh, and Gundy is 1-9 against Stoops
This post was edited on 5/12/14 at 10:43 pm
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