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Why is winning your conference such a big deal?
Posted on 11/27/16 at 2:40 am
Posted on 11/27/16 at 2:40 am
What is the rationalization for this? FBS College Football seems to be the only sport where people have this requirement. I can't think of another sport, college or pro, where this gets people so worked up. A relic of how it used to be perhaps?
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Posted on 11/27/16 at 2:44 am to SprintFun
It shouldn't be if Wisconsin wins the Big 10. OSU would have one less loss and won head up.
However there is no rational argument for OSU to get in over Penn State.
But If Penn state wins I would give both of them the nod over Washington
However there is no rational argument for OSU to get in over Penn State.
But If Penn state wins I would give both of them the nod over Washington
Posted on 11/27/16 at 2:46 am to Lionnation1993
This isn't about OSU.
Tell me why winning a conference championship is so important.
It's not important in any other sport. It's not even important in the FCS.
Tell me why winning a conference championship is so important.
It's not important in any other sport. It's not even important in the FCS.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 2:48 am to SprintFun
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Tell me why winning a conference championship is so important.
It should not be the main focus for making the playoff. If it was, there would be no need for a committee.
Best 4 teams
Posted on 11/27/16 at 2:55 am to SprintFun
It is important in other sports.
Do you think the Super Bowl just matches up two media darlings at the end of the year? No, they play the American Football CONFERENCE champ against the National Football CONFERENCE champ. Same with baseball and other sports. And division champs get automatic bids to the playoffs, even over teams from other divisions with better records and resumes.
Your post makes no sense now that I think about it.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 2:57 am to AUFANATL
In the NFL the divisions are a lot more akin to college football conferences, so I would use that as the comparison. There is not a requirement to win your division to make the playoffs.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 2:58 am to SprintFun
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This isn't about OSU
If only we were so lucky...
Posted on 11/27/16 at 2:59 am to SprintFun
quote:I guess the NFL is nonexistent to you, even if it's a little different.
I can't think of another sport, college or pro
One of the main reasons it is viewed with such importance is because of the lack of subjectivity. If a team wins their conference, as far as I'm concerned, that's the best team from that conference, and as a result one of the best teams in the nation.
However, if you have some committee or computer system making the calls, subjectivity will always come into play.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 3:00 am to SprintFun
quote:Correct, but the only other way in is by wild card, and those aren't exactly easy to get. Additionally, getting in by wild card ensures the most difficult road to the Super Bowl, hence winning your division being of importance.
There is not a requirement to win your division to make the playoffs.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 3:02 am to Kodar
quote:So every conference is equivalent then? From the MAC to the Big 12? Of course not. So how can you say that's a golden ticket when the conferences are so radically different.
One of the main reasons it is viewed with such importance is because of the lack of subjectivity. If a team wins their conference, as far as I'm concerned, that's the best team from that conference, and as a result one of the best teams in the nation.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 3:05 am to SprintFun
quote:Who said I thought of the G5 in the same light as the P5? As far as I'm concerned, it's not worth discussing the G5 with regard to the playoff. It's nothing personal, but how likely is it that a G5 team will ever make the playoffs and win? W. Michigan is 12-0 and they won't even come close to the playoffs this year.
So every conference is equivalent then? From the MAC to the Big 12? Of course not. So how can you say that's a golden ticket when the conferences are so radically different.
So with that in mind, I'm speaking explicitly of the P5. If a team wins a P5 conf, I consider that team one of the best in the nation.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 3:10 am to SprintFun
quote:
Posted by SprintFun online on 11/27/16 at 2:57 am to AUFANATL In the NFL the divisions are a lot more akin to college football conferences, so I would use that as the comparison. There is not a requirement to win your division to make the playoffs.
You also don't make the playoffs over other teams that won your division
Posted on 11/27/16 at 3:10 am to Kodar
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Correct, but the only other way in is by wild card, and those aren't exactly easy to get. Additionally, getting in by wild card ensures the most difficult road to the Super Bowl, hence winning your division being of importance.
You are making my point. In every other sport there is a process to allow multiple teams from the same division/conference/whatever to play for a championship because of inequality amongst division/conference/whatever. Some years the NL Central get multiple teams in, some years the AFC East, etc.
The goal of setting the field for the playoffs isn't to get the division/conference/whatever winners together, it's to get the best group of teams together.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 3:16 am to SprintFun
quote:Let me start by suggesting what I want to see happen because it might help answer where I'm coming from.
The goal of setting the field for the playoffs isn't to get the division/conference/whatever winners together, it's to get the best group of teams together.
8 team playoff
5 P5 conf champs
3 wild card (this will be subjective, because the system is flawed no matter what barring a major overhaul of CFB).
I would also like to see the G5 break off and make their own division. They deserve to have a shot at a championship, and it just isn't happening alongside the P5 barring a year that makes 2007 look peaceful.
Couple all that together with having the P5 basically be their own division, and go away from playing FCS/G5 teams. Play each other, set up a legit playoff system, and go from there.
Obviously, the parts following the 8 team playoff I mentioned are probably not happening, but the 8 team playoff could happen.
The 8 team allows for multiple teams from the same conference to get in, in addition to awarding the conference champs.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 3:42 am to SprintFun
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The goal of setting the field for the playoffs isn't to get the division/conference/whatever winners together, it's to get the best group of teams together
What the hell are you talking about? There is no "goal" there are simply RULES based on objective numerical standings withing the division and conference alignments. There's no debate whatsoever in the process...for any other sport. You win X, Y and Z = you finish here and go to playoffs.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 3:48 am to AUFANATL
quote:So how is the field set for the FCS playoffs? March madness? Ncaa baseball?
There's no debate whatsoever in the process...for any other sport.
Every college sport that I can think of does in fact have a selection process.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 3:55 am to SprintFun
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What is the rationalization for this? FBS College Football seems to be the only sport where people have this requirement. I can't think of another sport, college or pro, where this gets people so worked up. A relic of how it used to be perhaps
LOL what are you talking about? It's a requirement in literally every other sport
Posted on 11/27/16 at 5:54 am to VerlanderBEAST
quote:no one even thinks twice when a 9-7 wild card makes the NFL playoffs
LOL what are you talking about? It's a requirement in literally every other sport
yet let a 1 loss conference non-champion in the conversation for the CFP and everyone gnashes their teeth.
should have thought about that when you lost though
Posted on 11/27/16 at 6:09 am to SprintFun
Because otherwise you are a Fing loser who don't deserve to be in the playoff
Posted on 11/27/16 at 7:26 am to SprintFun
I for one am tired of the subjective bullshite. The rules change every year.
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