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re: Why is ESPN completely dismissing the possibility of OK State jumping Bama?
Posted on 11/26/11 at 1:28 pm to ReauxlTide222
Posted on 11/26/11 at 1:28 pm to ReauxlTide222
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Who do y'all think Miles will vote at 2nd? And the Chiz and Bob Stoops?
Probably vote for more pics of your gf
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Posted on 11/26/11 at 1:29 pm to WikiTiger
I live in Arizona now and I can't begin to tell you what they think of the SEC. It's not even hate, they've convinced themselves that the SEC isn't even good. shite I hear out here blows my mind.
Posted on 11/26/11 at 1:30 pm to BamaDude06
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That's about the only way to compare two teams that don't play. You are comparing two 1 LOSS teams.
So in 2008 in your opinion Texas should have been in the BCS CG over Florida correct? Texas only loss was to 11-1 top 10 ranked TTU, while Florida lost to 8-4 Ole Miss (yes I know OM beat TT in the Cotton Bowl, hindsight is 20/20).
Posted on 11/26/11 at 1:32 pm to WikiTiger
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don't worry, as long as OSU beats OU, they will be in the BCS NCG.
Not since Olahoma lost to Baylor. An Alabam win today pretty much assures them of a shot at the title game.
Posted on 11/26/11 at 1:34 pm to H-Town Tiger
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So in 2008 in your opinion Texas should have been in the BCS CG over Florida correct? Texas only loss was to 11-1 top 10 ranked TTU, while Florida lost to 8-4 Ole Miss (yes I know OM beat TT in the Cotton Bowl, hindsight is 20/20).
Texas should have been in the Big 12 title game, which would have put them in the BCSNC game with a win like OU did. If the Big 12 used the SEC tie breakers it would have happened that way.
Posted on 11/26/11 at 1:38 pm to jdg91878
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Bama: 1 quality win after PSU loses today and no conference title
Okie St: wins Conference and has 4-5 quality wins
PSU would still be 9-3. Still a quality win. Okie State has beaten.....yeah about the same. ULL and Tulsa
Arizona? They lost to a 4 TD underdog. The announcers that did that game said the day before Gundy was more confident than any coach they had seen and had zero worries about the game. They blew a 24-7 lead.
Posted on 11/26/11 at 1:40 pm to BamaDude06
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PSU would still be 9-3. Still a quality win
Not really. PSU has a schedule that is GARBAGE!!! And Bama struggled with them.
Posted on 11/26/11 at 1:42 pm to The Boat
Because they are stupid.
Ok State WILL be ahead of Bama in the computers with a win over OU. If Ok State can get ahead of Va Tech and Stanford in the polls (perhaps via losses), then Ok State only needs 25% of voters to put them above Bama.
Even the biggest Bama homers can't say it is a ridiculous stretch to think 25% of voters might decide to put the 11-1 Big 12 champs in over a team that didn't win their division and already lost to LSU. I don't know what happens, but Ok State at least has a shot.
Ok State WILL be ahead of Bama in the computers with a win over OU. If Ok State can get ahead of Va Tech and Stanford in the polls (perhaps via losses), then Ok State only needs 25% of voters to put them above Bama.
Even the biggest Bama homers can't say it is a ridiculous stretch to think 25% of voters might decide to put the 11-1 Big 12 champs in over a team that didn't win their division and already lost to LSU. I don't know what happens, but Ok State at least has a shot.
Posted on 11/26/11 at 1:43 pm to dukke v
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Not really. PSU has a schedule that is GARBAGE!!! And Bama struggled with them.
It was 27-11 with their last TD coming with less than 2 minutes in the game. First road start by our starting QB.
Posted on 11/26/11 at 1:45 pm to lsumatt
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Even the biggest Bama homers can't say it is a ridiculous stretch to think 25% of voters might decide to put the 11-1 Big 12 champs in over a team that didn't win their division and already lost to LSU. I don't know what happens, but Ok State at least has a shot.
Yes. With a Bama win today the only way OSU gets in is if voters decide to change their minds. If the game is supposed to be the BEST TWO teams in the country period, you can't put OSU in. If it is the best two conference champions then you make it LSU/OSU.
Posted on 11/26/11 at 1:49 pm to BamaDude06
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Texas should have been in the Big 12 title game, which would have put them in the BCSNC game with a win like OU did.
In that case, using your standard of only judging 1 loss teams that did not not play based on their loss, Oklahoma with 1 loss to Texas, should have been in the BCS CG over Florida and gotten a rematch with presumptive Big XII Champ Texas. Imagine if Texas had beaten Texas Tech, you'd have the same scenario we have now with LSU and Bama. I suspect SEC fans would have screamed bloody murder if there was a rematch of Texas OU over a 1 loss SEC champ.
This post was edited on 11/26/11 at 1:49 pm
Posted on 11/26/11 at 1:50 pm to BamaDude06
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If the game is supposed to be the BEST TWO teams in the country period, you can't put OSU in.
why not? According the computers, OSU is #2 right now.
Posted on 11/26/11 at 1:53 pm to BamaDude06
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With a Bama win today the only way OSU gets in is if voters decide to change their minds.
They have changed their minds before. In 2007, LSU was ranked #7 behind the likes of Va Tech, Georgia, and USC. Voters changed their mind and put LSU above them.
And who is to say Ok State isn't better. They have the same record and won a conference that has been statistically better than the SEC.
Posted on 11/26/11 at 1:53 pm to ReauxlTide222
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I live in Arizona now and I can't begin to tell you what they think of the SEC. It's not even hate, they've convinced themselves that the SEC isn't even good. shite I hear out here blows my mind.
I live in AZ too and I can second this.
Posted on 11/26/11 at 2:23 pm to Boosh Dag
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I live in Arizona now and I can't begin to tell you what they think of the SEC. It's not even hate, they've convinced themselves that the SEC isn't even good. shite I hear out here blows my mind.
I live in AZ too and I can second this.
I used to live in California and I agree. However, the one thing people who are making Oklahoma St scenarios are discounting almost completely is the threat Stanford poses.
They have no chance to actually make the BCSCG without Alabama losing. However, to simply assume most of the anti-SEC voters in the west will automatically drop an 11-1 Stanford below Oklahoma St when Stanford needs those votes to assure an auto bid to a BCS bowl isn't the given people make it seem.
Posted on 11/26/11 at 2:28 pm to wm72
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However, the one thing people who are making Oklahoma St scenarios are discounting almost completely is the threat Stanford poses.
They have no chance to actually make the BCSCG without Alabama losing. However, to simply assume most of the anti-SEC voters in the west will automatically drop an 11-1 Stanford below Oklahoma St when Stanford needs those votes to assure an auto bid to a BCS bowl isn't the given people make it seem.
I agree that Stanford poses a potential problem for Okie St., however, if I were a voter and I looked at the resumes, and saw Okie St. with 1 loss, but as outright champions of the toughest computer ranked BCS conference and a 1-loss Stanford team that didn't even win their division, well then I don't see how I could put Stanford over Okie St. at all.
But sure, there may be some west coast biased voters who do just that.
Posted on 11/26/11 at 2:30 pm to The Boat
because bama has a better PR department
Posted on 11/26/11 at 2:37 pm to brewhan davey
I think they still have a chance even if ALA wins today
Posted on 11/26/11 at 2:41 pm to WikiTiger
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I agree that Stanford poses a potential problem for Okie St., however, if I were a voter and I looked at the resumes, and saw Okie St. with 1 loss, but as outright champions of the toughest computer ranked BCS conference and a 1-loss Stanford team that didn't even win their division, well then I don't see how I could put Stanford over Okie St. at a
I think Oklahoma St has a better overall resume than Stanford but if you're in PAC12 territory you probably also think that Stanford has the best overall win (you hear from everyone that USC is better than Oklahoma, which, by the way, may well be right) and far and away the better loss.
There is some justification and that's all voters who want them voted highly need.
Posted on 11/26/11 at 2:47 pm to ReauxlTide222
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I live in Arizona now and I can't begin to tell you what they think of the SEC.
Yeah, Arizona is a real football hotbed. I would think soccer would trump football there with all of the illegals.
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