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Why is Bo Schembechler considered a "legendary" coach?
Posted on 11/20/19 at 2:46 pm
Posted on 11/20/19 at 2:46 pm
His record at Michigan was very good, but his postseason record is downright awful, especially 2-8 in the Rose Bowl. By comparison, Woody Hayes was a respectable 4-4 in the RB. Curious if any of the Big 10 people here have insight into this.
This post was edited on 11/21/19 at 8:15 pm
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Posted on 11/20/19 at 2:47 pm to Mithridates6
Same reason as Vince Dooley.
Posted on 11/20/19 at 2:48 pm to Mithridates6
I am thinking that the 10 year war with Woody helps out his legacy quite a bit.
Posted on 11/20/19 at 2:48 pm to Mithridates6
Because he went toe to toe with Woody and beat what many consider to be Woody's best team in 1969. He kept them somewhat relevant during his tenure as well. Was never able to really get over that hump.
Posted on 11/20/19 at 2:48 pm to Mithridates6
should have taken the A&M job
Posted on 11/20/19 at 2:48 pm to Tigertown in ATL
Dooley won an NC...
Posted on 11/20/19 at 2:50 pm to Mithridates6
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Dooley won an NC...
Herschel won a NC.
Dooley was along for the ride and did very little after that.
Posted on 11/20/19 at 2:50 pm to Mithridates6
Some of you need to study up on the history of college football. Winning the big 10 and going to the rose bowl was the most important thing.
Posted on 11/20/19 at 2:52 pm to Mithridates6
Lot's of Big Ten championships in an era where that meant a lot. It's fascinating to watch the CFB 150 documentaries especially the one specifically concerning polls, bowls, and championships. A national championship while great, wasn't the end all be all of college football because of how regionalized it was and how it kind of happened as a vote rather than on the field. Most of the time you only "thought" you'd just won a national championship until it was verified or disregarded in the polls afterwards
This post was edited on 11/20/19 at 2:54 pm
Posted on 11/20/19 at 2:52 pm to RLDSC FAN
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This post was edited on 11/20/19 at 3:23 pm
Posted on 11/20/19 at 2:52 pm to Mithridates6
10 years war
Michigan was a "blue blood" and that's their best coach.
Michigan was a "blue blood" and that's their best coach.
Posted on 11/20/19 at 2:55 pm to Mithridates6
I mean he won 13 conference championships and finished in the AP top 10 sixteen times in 21 seasons. How many coaches have had a better sustained run of excellence than that? Probably Bryant, Bowden, Osborne, and Saban and that's basically it.
Posted on 11/20/19 at 2:58 pm to RLDSC FAN
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Some of you need to study up on the history of college football. Winning the big 10 and going to the rose bowl was the most important thing.
This. People try to use modern standards but the “National Championship” was more like an honor than a goal in the past. The polls were still naming a champ before the bowls for at least part of Bo’s tenure.
We also didn’t judge anyone that didn’t win as “losers” or chokers or that type of stuff like today
This post was edited on 11/20/19 at 2:59 pm
Posted on 11/20/19 at 2:58 pm to RLDSC FAN
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Some of you need to study up on the history of college football. Winning the big 10 and going to the rose bowl was the most important thing.
To the Big 10...
Posted on 11/20/19 at 3:02 pm to Mithridates6
Great marketing!
But seriously, even though I'm biased, I think he's defined more by how many times his teams denied Woody Hayes and Ohio State their goals than by how much he achieved of his.
Going back to the marketing, he was a former player and assistant of Hayes and it often appeared the student had the teacher's number, a story meant to be played up.
But seriously, even though I'm biased, I think he's defined more by how many times his teams denied Woody Hayes and Ohio State their goals than by how much he achieved of his.
Going back to the marketing, he was a former player and assistant of Hayes and it often appeared the student had the teacher's number, a story meant to be played up.
Posted on 11/20/19 at 3:07 pm to DemonKA3268
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To the Big 10...
Yes. And winning the SEC and going to the Sugar Bowl was a big deal to the SEC.
Winning the Big 8 and going to the Orange bowl was a big deal to the Big 8.
Winning the SWC and going to the Cotton Bowl was a big deal to the SWC.
Posted on 11/20/19 at 3:08 pm to H-Town Tiger
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This post was edited on 11/20/19 at 3:49 pm
Posted on 11/20/19 at 3:08 pm to Mithridates6
He had a winning % of .796
.850 in the Big10
And lost his 8 Rose Bowls by an average of a TD or less.
He hated the BCS and wouldn't watch a Rose Bowl if the matchup wasn't Big10/Pac10.
“It just bothered me that we caved in,” Schembechler said. “The Pac-10 and the Big Ten caved in. We were still the most dominant bowl game there was, the greatest matchup of two great conferences. It was what college football was all about, and we caved in. We joined the BCS. We didn’t have to do that.”
.850 in the Big10
And lost his 8 Rose Bowls by an average of a TD or less.
He hated the BCS and wouldn't watch a Rose Bowl if the matchup wasn't Big10/Pac10.
“It just bothered me that we caved in,” Schembechler said. “The Pac-10 and the Big Ten caved in. We were still the most dominant bowl game there was, the greatest matchup of two great conferences. It was what college football was all about, and we caved in. We joined the BCS. We didn’t have to do that.”
Posted on 11/20/19 at 3:10 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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He hated the BCS and wouldn't watch a Rose Bowl if the matchup wasn't Big10/Pac10.
“It just bothered me that we caved in,” Schembechler said. “The Pac-10 and the Big Ten caved in. We were still the most dominant bowl game there was, the greatest matchup of two great conferences. It was what college football was all about, and we caved in. We joined the BCS. We didn’t have to do that.”
Hard agree. It wasn't that Texas wasn't a great team in 04, but i loved the traditional aspect of the Rose Bowl before that
Posted on 11/20/19 at 3:12 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
This board has no respect for the big ten.
13 Big Ten Champions (1969, 1971–1974, 1976–1978, 1980, 1982, 1986, 1988–1989)
multiple coach of the year awards.
13 Big Ten Champions (1969, 1971–1974, 1976–1978, 1980, 1982, 1986, 1988–1989)
multiple coach of the year awards.
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