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Why don't NFL qb's ever hold out?
Posted on 8/12/16 at 4:08 pm
Posted on 8/12/16 at 4:08 pm
We've seen guys like Kam Chancellor, DeAndre Hopkins, Revis and plenty of guys before them hold out and true vast majority don't get anywhere because they don't have that much leverage/ impact on the teams chances.
Now star qb's are the face of the franchise and are the determining factor between success and failure most of the time ie. Indy Peyton Manning, Aaron Rodgers. If Aaron Rodgers held out in order to renegotiate and up his AAV or get the rest of his contract guaranteed after the gtd money had ran out, the packers would be forced to give in. They would suck without him and fans would be pissed off at management for not taking care of their players. Star Qb's are the one position where if players exerted enough pressure they could get gtd contracts or the vast majority of it gtd but they never seem to put that kind of pressure on their teams
Now star qb's are the face of the franchise and are the determining factor between success and failure most of the time ie. Indy Peyton Manning, Aaron Rodgers. If Aaron Rodgers held out in order to renegotiate and up his AAV or get the rest of his contract guaranteed after the gtd money had ran out, the packers would be forced to give in. They would suck without him and fans would be pissed off at management for not taking care of their players. Star Qb's are the one position where if players exerted enough pressure they could get gtd contracts or the vast majority of it gtd but they never seem to put that kind of pressure on their teams
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Posted on 8/12/16 at 4:17 pm to BernardCastle
It rarely comes to that.
Posted on 8/12/16 at 4:19 pm to BernardCastle
QB's make a shite ton of money in endorsements. Holding out for an extra few mil is not worth the PR hit to their marketability.
Posted on 8/12/16 at 4:20 pm to wildtigercat93
IIRC Andy Dalton is already out of true gtd money and Wilson will be after this season as well. If I were them I would tell the team to gtee future years or I hold out
Posted on 8/12/16 at 4:21 pm to BernardCastle
Carson Palmer retired due to contact negotiations and wanted to be traded.
Posted on 8/12/16 at 4:25 pm to BernardCastle
Didn't Fitzpatrick just do that?
Posted on 8/12/16 at 4:27 pm to burdman
He was a FA
Posted on 8/12/16 at 4:28 pm to wildtigercat93
Oh yeah. That's an important detail 
Posted on 8/12/16 at 9:08 pm to BernardCastle
Jamarcus held out fwiw
Posted on 8/12/16 at 9:09 pm to BernardCastle
You mean like Drew Brees?
Posted on 8/12/16 at 9:32 pm to BernardCastle
Drew Brees. While Peyton was suspended.
The team has never been the same.
The team has never been the same.
Posted on 8/12/16 at 9:54 pm to OceanMan
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While Peyton was suspended.
What does Peyton have to do with Drew's contract? I
Posted on 8/12/16 at 11:09 pm to BernardCastle
There are only maybe 10 QBs good enough to win the Super Bowl in this pass Hsppy league.
Teams have incentive to lock them up long term, & the $ is so stupid those 10-(15) wouodnt turn down guaranteed $$ with the injury risk of the position.
Bottom tier starters don't have much leverage, b/c those teams are usually rebuilding, & you could trade for a stop gap or run the cheap development over paying stupid $ for a borderline starter.....
The cutoff line is Jay Cutler when it gets interesting
Teams have incentive to lock them up long term, & the $ is so stupid those 10-(15) wouodnt turn down guaranteed $$ with the injury risk of the position.
Bottom tier starters don't have much leverage, b/c those teams are usually rebuilding, & you could trade for a stop gap or run the cheap development over paying stupid $ for a borderline starter.....
The cutoff line is Jay Cutler when it gets interesting
This post was edited on 8/12/16 at 11:11 pm
Posted on 8/12/16 at 11:32 pm to BernardCastle
Biggest holdout ever.
John Elway.
Trade me or I will play baseball.
John Elway.
Trade me or I will play baseball.
Posted on 8/12/16 at 11:37 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
In most cases, teams are wisely proactive in providing star QBs generous deals before it even gets to that point.
Posted on 8/13/16 at 8:43 am to BernardCastle
One reason is qbs tend to get paid and even overpaid as opposed to people like Revis, who don't get taken care of. A qb holding out is also more difficult bc ever qb knows holding out would have a major effect on how his teammates view him.
Posted on 8/13/16 at 8:46 am to BernardCastle
Cause QB's always eventually get paid. Simple as that. Nobody's trading a high level QB. They get paid. 
Posted on 8/13/16 at 9:23 am to airfernando
quote:Revis has been well taken care of.
One reason is qbs tend to get paid and even overpaid as opposed to people like Revis, who don't get taken care of. A qb holding out is also more difficult bc ever qb knows holding out would have a major effect on how his teammates view him.
And though I understand your premise, I disagree. QBs usually get paid before it comes to that. But even when it doesn't, look at the Fitz situation. I don't think anyone is holding that against him.
Posted on 8/13/16 at 9:37 am to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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Biggest holdout ever. John Elway. Trade me or I will play baseball
Didn't Eli basically do something similar with San Diego?
Posted on 8/13/16 at 9:55 am to McCaigBro69
If by something similar, you mean he got his daddy to tell them he didn't want to play for the Chargers, then yeah
Weirdly enough, the same GM who traded for Elway with the Broncos, was the GM (or some other title) with the Giants whenever they traded for Eli
Weirdly enough, the same GM who traded for Elway with the Broncos, was the GM (or some other title) with the Giants whenever they traded for Eli
This post was edited on 8/13/16 at 9:57 am
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