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Why did the Big 12 take TCU over Louisville?

Posted on 1/3/13 at 1:38 pm
Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 1/3/13 at 1:38 pm
Both football programs are comparable but Louisville has a much bigger athletic budget, a significantly better basketball program, and they would have added TVs and a new market to the Big 12. What were the advantages to bringing in TCU over Louisville?
Posted by CHEEEEESE
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Posted on 1/3/13 at 1:42 pm to
I would say geography but they let WVU in.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 1/3/13 at 1:42 pm to
who knows Lville fans claim we stole their invite to the Big12. Big12 should have snatched Lville up any way.
Posted by BaylorTiger
Member since Nov 2006
2083 posts
Posted on 1/3/13 at 1:56 pm to
Hindsight, it's 20/20.

Let's just all laugh at Colorado instead?

Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
Member since Sep 2003
49645 posts
Posted on 1/3/13 at 1:57 pm to
The round robin schedule is killing the Big 12. They need a 12th team to pad their records a bit. It's statistically impossible for them to have six 10 win teams like the SEC did. Conference perception is what got Bama to two straight title games and cost consecutive Big 12 champions a national title shot. So its not insignificant.

A 12-team Big 12 probably sends Okie St to the title game last year and maybe KSU this year. Add Louisville and someone like Pitt. ASAP.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125410 posts
Posted on 1/3/13 at 2:00 pm to
yea they must still be trying that FSU Clemson card
Posted by BaylorTiger
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 1/3/13 at 2:02 pm to
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The round robin schedule is killing the Big 12


They did have 9 out of 10 bowl qualifiers...I concede the other, more important, big picture points.

Who do they get though?!?! They were to slow and incompetent and allowed massive amounts of red-tape and "addendum" exit fees to take place...with the 2014 "playoff" deadline approaching they might be forced into picking up some terrible patsies.
This post was edited on 1/3/13 at 2:04 pm
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41819 posts
Posted on 1/3/13 at 2:02 pm to
quote:

Add Louisville


um, they just joined the ACC; could start playing next year
Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
Member since Sep 2003
49645 posts
Posted on 1/3/13 at 2:03 pm to
Yeah, while most conferences want to add markets, the Big 12 just needs warm bodies. It almost doesn't matter who they add, so long as its remotely credible. Get to 12 teams.
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 1/3/13 at 2:03 pm to
The better question is did the Big XII even consider Louisville?

And the answer to your initial question is obvious: TCU is in Texas.
Posted by FootballNostradamus
Member since Nov 2009
20509 posts
Posted on 1/3/13 at 2:04 pm to
quote:

Both football programs are comparable but Louisville has a much bigger athletic budget, a significantly better basketball program, and they would have added TVs and a new market to the Big 12. What were the advantages to bringing in TCU over Louisville?


I've said it before, but I really think Louisville has been the most underrated prize of this whole expansion drama.

I know people like to talk about TV markets and all that garbage, but first and foremost it should be about the product you put on the field and your commitment to success.

Louisville has one of the best ADs in the nation. Their facilities are SEC-esque, especially when you factor in their insane basketball arena and baseball stadium. They've proven with the contract they've given Strong that they're committed to winning.

I fully expect them to continue their success in the ACC and possibly thrive with the increased resources/exposure.

Having said all this, I'm glad they both went where they did. I'm a huge proponent of maintaining regional conferences when at all possible. Louisville in the Big 12 or TCU in the ACC would have been fvcking stupid. They both fit perfectly where they're going to be.
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41819 posts
Posted on 1/3/13 at 2:05 pm to
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I've said it before, but I really think Louisville has been the most underrated prize of this whole expansion drama.


indeed, i said before that adding lville after losing maryland was a win for the ACC but the MSB delusionists just stay deluded.
This post was edited on 1/3/13 at 2:08 pm
Posted by BaylorTiger
Member since Nov 2006
2083 posts
Posted on 1/3/13 at 2:05 pm to
quote:

And the answer to your initial question is obvious: TCU is in Texas.


I agree that replacing a Texas them WITH a Texas team seemed logical.

Kind of...A&M had MASSIVE market share compared to TCU; what did they really gain? Why did they NEED another Texas team?
Posted by BaylorTiger
Member since Nov 2006
2083 posts
Posted on 1/3/13 at 2:07 pm to
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Louisville in the Big 12 or TCU in the ACC would have been fvcking stupid


Welcome to the other 80% of conference expansion...
Posted by FootballNostradamus
Member since Nov 2009
20509 posts
Posted on 1/3/13 at 2:07 pm to
quote:

indeed, i said before that adding lville and dropping maryland was a win for the ACC but the MSB delusionists just stay deluded.


Yea people are fvcking moronic. The ACC is going to get PAID as much as $50 Million to swap Maryland with Louisville. That's the most lopsided trade in decades.
Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
Member since Sep 2003
49645 posts
Posted on 1/3/13 at 2:08 pm to
I just think you're underrating Maryland, but we've had that discussion already. But I'm thrilled to be out of the ACC. And I think it's funny that now Maryland is the Big Ten team to have most recently won the national basketball title.
Posted by chief420
Parkersburg,WV
Member since Apr 2009
4189 posts
Posted on 1/3/13 at 2:09 pm to
quote:

What were the advantages to bringing in TCU over Louisville?


The same advantages that WVU brought, they were willing to move immediately. UL jumped to the ACC because they thought that was their last chance, and the ACC was looking to sure up roster.
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41819 posts
Posted on 1/3/13 at 2:10 pm to
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I just think you're underrating Maryland


youre biased for starters and secondly i conceded they have potential but the current state of the athletic department is in shambles.
Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
Member since Sep 2003
49645 posts
Posted on 1/3/13 at 2:13 pm to
Sure, I admitted my bias, but also posted the facts to demonstrate their success. they've been financially mismanaged, but Maryland has won a lot of national titles in wide variety of sports the past ten years, been pretty successful at most sports they compete at, and their football program was pretty good until they made a disastrous head coaching hire.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125410 posts
Posted on 1/3/13 at 2:15 pm to
quote:

The same advantages that WVU brought, they were willing to move immediately. UL jumped to the ACC because they thought that was their last chance, and the ACC was looking to sure up roster


yea that whole academic standards and must be on the east coast thing went out the window
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