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re: Why are people acting like Adrian Peterson was punching his son in the face?
Posted on 9/15/14 at 4:42 pm to PrimeTime Money
Posted on 9/15/14 at 4:42 pm to PrimeTime Money
quote:What emotion? What passage in my text shows this?
You are trying to word your argument in a way that evokes emotion. We're not idiots.
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Posted on 9/15/14 at 4:44 pm to PrimeTime Money
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According to law-enforcement sources, Minnesota Vikings running back Adrian Peterson beat his 4-year-old son with a tree branch as a form of punishment this summer, an incident that allegedly resulted in multiple injuries to the child. According to reports, Peterson has been indicted in Montgomery County, Texas for injury to a child.
The “whooping” – as Peterson put it when interviewed by police – occurred in Spring, Texas, in May. Peterson’s son had pushed another one of Peterson’s children off of a motorbike video game. As punishment, Peterson grabbed a tree branch – which he consistently referred to as a “switch” – removed the leaves and struck the child repeatedly.
The beating allegedly resulted in numerous injuries to the child, including cuts and bruises to the child’s back, buttocks, ankles, legs and scrotum, along with defensive wounds to the child’s hands. Peterson then texted the boy’s mother, saying that one wound in particular would make her “mad at me about his leg. I got kinda good wit the tail end of the switch.”
Peterson also allegedly said via text message to the child’s mother that he “felt bad after the fact when I notice the switch was wrapping around hitting I (sic) thigh” and also acknowledged the injury to the child’s scrotum in a text message, saying, “Got him in nuts once I noticed. But I felt so bad, n I’m all tearing that butt up when needed! I start putting them in timeout. N save the whooping for needed memories!”
In further text messages, Peterson allegedly said, “Never do I go overboard! But all my kids will know, hey daddy has the biggie heart but don’t play no games when it comes to acting right.”
According to police reports, the child, however, had a slightly different story, telling authorities that “Daddy Peterson hit me on my face.” The child also expressed worry that Peterson would punch him in the face if the child reported the incident to authorities. He also said that he had been hit by a belt and that “there are a lot of belts in Daddy’s closet.” He added that Peterson put leaves in his mouth when he was being hit with the switch while his pants were down. The child told his mother that Peterson “likes belts and switches” and “has a whooping room.”
Peterson, when contacted by police, admitted that he had “whooped” his son on the backside with a switch as a form of punishment, and then, in fact, produced a switch similar to the one with which he hit the child. Peterson also admitted that he administered two different “whoopings” to his son during the visit to Texas, the other being a punishment for the 4-year-old scratching the face of a 5-year-old.
In an interview with Houston police, Peterson was very matter-of-fact and calm about the incident, appearing to believe he had done nothing wrong and reiterating how much he cared about his son and only used “whoopings” or “spankings” as a last resort. He offered up information that the police didn’t have and was incredulous when asked if some of the numerous wounds and marks on the child were from an extension cord, saying, “Oh, no, I’d never hit my child with an extension cord. I remember how it feels to get whooped with an extension cord. I’d never do that.”
Peterson also said, “Anytime I spank my kids, I talk to them before, let them know what they did, and of course after.” Peterson also expressed regret that his son did not cry – because then, Peterson said, he would have known that the switch was doing more damage than intended. He didn’t realize the “tip of the switch and the ridges of the switch were wrapping around [the child’s] legs.” Peterson also acknowledged that this was administered directly to the child’s skin and with the child’s pants pulled down.
This post was edited on 9/15/14 at 4:45 pm
Posted on 9/15/14 at 4:44 pm to abellsujr
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Peterson later told police that the marks on his son’s buttocks were similar to the marks any of his other children get when he “spanks them with a switch,” but that the mark on the child’s leg from when the switch “wrapped around his thigh” was more severe than anything he had ever done in the past.
Peterson said he knew that his son had a doctor’s appointment scheduled for when he returned home and that the doctor would discover the injuries. Peterson added that if he felt like he was “really wrong for what I did, or had any ill intent, there’s no way I would have let him get on that plane.” He went on to say, “I have nothing to hide, but I also understand when a child has marks like that on his leg, they have to report that.”
When Peterson was asked how he felt about the incident, he said, “To be honest with you, I feel very confident with my actions because I know my intent.” He also described the incident as a “normal whooping” in regards to the “welps” on the child’s buttocks, but that he felt bad immediately when he saw the injuries on the child’s legs. Peterson estimated he “swatted” his son “10 to 15” times, but he’s not sure because he doesn’t “ever count how many pops I give my kids.”
Peterson went on to reiterate again how much he loves all his kids, and only “whoops” them because he wants them to do right. Toward the end of the interview, Peterson said he would reconsider using switches in the future, but said he would never “eliminate whooping my kids . . . because I know how being spanked has helped me in my life.”
After the child returned home to Minnesota in late May, the mother took the son to his previously scheduled doctor appointment and the doctor that examined the child said the injuries were consistent with child abuse and that it appeared the child had injuries from one incident involving a “switch” and another incident possibly involving a cord.
Authorities in Minnesota referred the case to the Houston Police Department to investigate. During the investigation, authorities determined that the incident did not take place on Woodway Drive in Houston, as originally believed, but instead in Spring, Texas, which is in the Montgomery County jurisdiction.
According to a law-enforcement source, Peterson was indicted Friday in Montgomery County, Texas, but has not yet been arrested.
The NFL recently unveiled a domestic-violence policy, which stipulates a six-game suspension for a first offense but allows for steeper penalties if children are involved.
The Vikings have deactivated Peterson for Sunday’s game against the Patriots.
The Montgomery County Sheriff Office released the following statement:
On Thursday, September 11, 2014, a Montgomery County Grand Jury, “true billed”, Adrian Lewis Peterson on a charge of injury to a child. On today’s date at 2:47 PM, a warrant was issued and entered for the arrest of Adrian Peterson for that charge.
Since the Montgomery County Sheriff’s Office has referred the case to the Montgomery County District Attorney’s Office, and the investigation has led to a, “true bill”, on a criminal offense, the Montgomery County Sheriff’s Office will not discuss details in reference to the case or investigation.
At the time of this release, Adrian Peterson is not in custody at the Montgomery County Jail and the Montgomery County Sheriff’s Office does not have any details in the arrest of Adrian Peterson.
Peterson’s lawyer Rusty Hardin released a statement saying:
“Adrian Peterson has been informed that he was indicted by a grand jury in Montgomery County, Texas for Injury to a Child. The charged conduct involves using a switch to spank his son. This indictment follows Adrian’s full cooperation with authorities who have been looking into this matter. Adrian is a loving father who used his judgment as a parent to discipline his son. He used the same kind of discipline with his child that he experienced as a child growing up in east Texas. Adrian has never hidden from what happened. He has cooperated fully with authorities and voluntarily testified before the grand jury for several hours. Adrian will address the charges with the same respect and responsiveness he has brought to this inquiry from its beginning. It is important to remember that Adrian never intended to harm his son and deeply regrets the unintentional injury.”
This post was edited on 9/15/14 at 4:50 pm
Posted on 9/15/14 at 4:45 pm to PrimeTime Money
I mean I get what you're trying to say here, it just seems like a really weird hair to split.
"Yeah he hurt his 4 year old, yes it was too much, yes it was abuse, but was it an injury or a SEVERE injury??"
Why is that the most concerning thing about all of this to you?
Call it what you want, I just feel like injuries to a young child inflicted by the person whose only real job in life should be to keep him safe are exponentially worse than the same injury to an able bodied adult or teenager.
"Yeah he hurt his 4 year old, yes it was too much, yes it was abuse, but was it an injury or a SEVERE injury??"
Why is that the most concerning thing about all of this to you?
Call it what you want, I just feel like injuries to a young child inflicted by the person whose only real job in life should be to keep him safe are exponentially worse than the same injury to an able bodied adult or teenager.
Posted on 9/15/14 at 4:46 pm to PrimeTime Money
Beating a 4 year old child with a small tree branch is completely uncalled for. What's worse is that Adrian Peterson doesn't realize that it's uncalled for and in his text messages to his ex wife. He sounds like it's a joke.
I understand that every parents has the right to discipline their child the way they please. But, beating on a kid until he's bleeding and has marks on his private parts is completely uncalled for.
I understand that every parents has the right to discipline their child the way they please. But, beating on a kid until he's bleeding and has marks on his private parts is completely uncalled for.
Posted on 9/15/14 at 4:46 pm to PrimeTime Money
Do you have a child?
Do you understand he caused cuts on his 4 year old?
Isn't it also in the police report that his kid said Peterson hit him in the face?
What he did is totally inappropriate. By a guy who doesn't seem to be much if a hands on father anyway, from what I've seen. (Hands in meaning good and attentive) were talking about using a stick to whoop a 4 year old, when he's still young enough for the hand to do the trick.
Do you understand he caused cuts on his 4 year old?
Isn't it also in the police report that his kid said Peterson hit him in the face?
What he did is totally inappropriate. By a guy who doesn't seem to be much if a hands on father anyway, from what I've seen. (Hands in meaning good and attentive) were talking about using a stick to whoop a 4 year old, when he's still young enough for the hand to do the trick.
Posted on 9/15/14 at 4:48 pm to ballscaster
quote:You keep saying the same thing over again, adding more descriptive wording each time to evoke emotion.
What emotion? What passage in my text shows this?
Posted on 9/15/14 at 4:49 pm to TexasTiger1185
I guarantee you he doesn't have a child and if he did, he wouldn't have started this terrible thread. If he does have a child, I feel bad for his kid because he is likely a horrible parent.
Posted on 9/15/14 at 4:49 pm to PrimeTime Money
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Yes, he took it way too far and caused some welts, broken skin, etc. And even though it's wrong, and you can say disturbing, the injuries are not serious.
A black eye isn't serious. Just a bruise. Does that make it ok what ray rice did?
This is so stupid.
Posted on 9/15/14 at 4:49 pm to PrimeTime Money
You know those pictures your friends posted on Facebook last month, all of those tiny kids going to Pre-K for the first time? Those little kids that have to carry a small Ninja Turtle backpack because a full sized school bag would topple them over? That's a four year old.
Their brain is so underdeveloped, they won't even remember 99% of their Pre-K year.
That's what Peterson had to whip into acting right.
Their brain is so underdeveloped, they won't even remember 99% of their Pre-K year.
That's what Peterson had to whip into acting right.
Posted on 9/15/14 at 4:50 pm to PrimeTime Money
Talk shows are based on sensationalism. The more sensational they make a story sound, the more people tune in.
Posted on 9/15/14 at 4:51 pm to gatordmb89
I'll be honest, before my son I thought certain physical punishments were ok. Because I went through them.
Now, I know that they aren't. Because I can't do that shite to my son. Can't and won't.
That doesn't mean I can't find a way for him to obey.
Now, I know that they aren't. Because I can't do that shite to my son. Can't and won't.
That doesn't mean I can't find a way for him to obey.
Posted on 9/15/14 at 4:52 pm to gatordmb89
quote:It's kind of sad that he doesn't get it after 4+ pages.
I guarantee you he doesn't have a child and if he did, he wouldn't have started this terrible thread. If he does have a child, I feel bad for his kid because he is likely a horrible parent.
Posted on 9/15/14 at 4:53 pm to TexasTiger1185
quote:Punching somebody in the face is dangerous because it could potentially cause many serious injuries which are unpredictable.
A black eye isn't serious. Just a bruise. Does that make it ok what ray rice did?
The act of whipping somebody with a thin tree branch on their backside can only cause a limited amount of injury to the extent of the force used.
This post was edited on 9/15/14 at 4:55 pm
Posted on 9/15/14 at 4:54 pm to PrimeTime Money
What emotion? What have I said that is an attempt to evoke emotion?
Posted on 9/15/14 at 4:55 pm to gatordmb89
quote:I don't spank at all.
I guarantee you he doesn't have a child and if he did, he wouldn't have started this terrible thread. If he does have a child, I feel bad for his kid because he is likely a horrible parent.
Posted on 9/15/14 at 4:56 pm to PrimeTime Money
quote:What part of AP's child being 4 years old do you not get?
Punching somebody in the face is dangerous because it could potentially cause many serious injuries which are unpredictable.
The act of whipping somebody with a thin tree branch on their backside can only cause a limited amount of injury to the extent of the force used.
Also, Peterson even said that he can't remember how many times he hit the child. Because he doesn't keep count. Do you think that's acceptable behavior for a grown adult?
Posted on 9/15/14 at 4:58 pm to PrimeTime Money
There's no justification for what AD did. Period.
The fact that you keep making the same irrelevant point over and over again shows how dense you truly are.
The fact that you keep making the same irrelevant point over and over again shows how dense you truly are.
Posted on 9/15/14 at 4:58 pm to PrimeTime Money
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I'm only talking about the extent of the injuries left behind. They are being described as much worse than they are in reality. That's the only thing I take issue with. Just be accurate about the extent of the actual injury.
and comparing the injuries of a four year old to that of an adult isn't an appropriate comparison. do you agree?
Posted on 9/15/14 at 4:59 pm to PrimeTime Money
You didn't read the article did you? If you want to practice corporal punishment, fine. If you want to spank your kids, fine. I don't have a problem with someone who wants to spank their kids. I have a seven year old and a 5 year old and there have been a couple of occasions where I have spanked them only using my hand and only on the butt. This however was not a spanking. He drew blood and hit him in inappropriate areas.
The public has taken this horrible tragedy and turned it into a corporal punishment argument. Why? This was not appropriate corporal punishment. This went beyond what is acceptable even by corporal punishment standards. Most of the people I've talked to about this who defend him say "well, it was an accident" "he didn't mean to hit him in the scrotum". Why does that matter? The law does not excuse you from ignorance. Whether it was an accident or not, it's still against the law.
If you want to practice corporal punishment, fine. If you want to spank your kids, fine. I don't have a problem with someone who wants to spank their kids. I have a seven year old and a 5 year old and there have been a couple of occasions where I have spanked them only using my hand and only on the butt. This however was not a spanking. He drew blood and hit him in inappropriate areas. The public has taken this horrible tragedy and turned it into a corporal punishment argument. Why? This was not appropriate corporal punishment. This went beyond what is acceptable even by corporal punishment standards. Most of the people I've talked to about this who defend him say "well, it was an accident" "he didn't mean to hit him in the scrotum". Why does that matter? The law does not excuse you from ignorance. Whether it was an accident or not, it's still against the law.
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