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re: Who here thinks LeBron did nothing wrong at all?
Posted on 7/9/10 at 8:17 am to Pilot Tiger
Posted on 7/9/10 at 8:17 am to Pilot Tiger
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The Cavs owner is a jerk
I think he's a bitch, not necessarily a jerk, though.
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Owners and GM's cut/trade players all the time without letter the players know beforehand.
C'mon, you know this is different.
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lebron doesnt owe the team jack shite
Maybe not, but as a professional and fellow businessman, he could have maybe let Gilbert know that his investment(the Cavs) was about to be devalued a couple hundred million dollars. I'd love to see how much the Cavs are worth today vs. what they were worth a month ago. Gilbert's letter was a bitch move, but I think he's got a pretty good reason to be pretty sour.
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Posted on 7/9/10 at 8:18 am to Pilot Tiger
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so by yalls definition Russell Shepard and all the recruits he tried to get to come to LSU aren't "competitive" because they want the best players to come to LSU to win titles.
apples =/= oranges
It was also pointed out last night that it would be more interesting to see James beat Wade for a title, or vice versa, than see these three join together.
Posted on 7/9/10 at 8:18 am to Pilot Tiger
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so by yalls definition Russell Shepard and all the recruits he tried to get to come to LSU aren't "competitive" because they want the best players to come to LSU to win titles.
Not even close to being the same.
Posted on 7/9/10 at 8:21 am to Hot Carl
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as a professional and fellow businessman
This. The entire episode was fricking ridiculous in my opinion. It will be fun to watch the bandwagoneers this coming season though.
Posted on 7/9/10 at 8:22 am to xiv
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Who here thinks LeBron did nothing wrong at all?
Of course he did nothing "wrong". It was just kind of weak.
Posted on 7/9/10 at 8:23 am to Hot Carl
quote:how is it not?? They're both free to go where they want and they colluded with other players to join a team they think gives them the best chance at winning? It's the same freaking thing
Not even close to being the same
Posted on 7/9/10 at 8:24 am to Hot Carl
quote:no. no it's not. players see they've been traded on ESPN without a phone call or meeting from a GM. He didnt owe them anything.
Owners and GM's cut/trade players all the time without letter the players know beforehand.
C'mon, you know this is different.
quote:he's a first class jerk. Go read some stuff about him
I think he's a bitch, not necessarily a jerk, though.
Posted on 7/9/10 at 8:24 am to VOR
I wonder if all the Lebron-lovers would feel the same if instead of James this whole story was about Drew Brees deciding what to do then getting on national TV and doing the same thing?
Its almost impossible to even imagine Brees doing this but how would everyone feel then?
" I put my time in with the Saints, I built them to what they are but Im taking less money to go to the Cowboys. They give me a better chance to win right now"
Its almost impossible to even imagine Brees doing this but how would everyone feel then?
" I put my time in with the Saints, I built them to what they are but Im taking less money to go to the Cowboys. They give me a better chance to win right now"
Posted on 7/9/10 at 8:25 am to bomber77
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I wonder if all the Lebron-lovers would feel the same if instead of James this whole story was about Drew Brees deciding what to do then getting on national TV and doing the same thing?
Can't compare. Brees is not a weak minded follower.
Posted on 7/9/10 at 8:28 am to ScoopAndScore
Nothing wrong with the actual signing (move). Everything wrong with the announcing of it. Three entities look awful at the end of this. 1) Lebron for being a classless arse. 2) ESPN for blatantly acting like the whores they are. 3.)NBA owners (the ones chasing Lebron) for showing that they don't have an ounce of self-pride.
Posted on 7/9/10 at 8:28 am to bomber77
quote:well im not a cavs fan. if i were a cavs fan, i may be upset. likewise, id be upset if brees did that but if i werent a saints fan i probably wouldnt care.
I wonder if all the Lebron-lovers would feel the same if instead of James this whole story was about Drew Brees deciding what to do then getting on national TV and doing the same thing?
Its almost impossible to even imagine Brees doing this but how would everyone feel then?
" I put my time in with the Saints, I built them to what they are but Im taking less money to go to the Cowboys. They give me a better chance to win right now"
not the same situation though, bron is from the area, was drafted by that team. brees is from tx, went to college in indiana, drafted by SD, and brought over to NOLA via free agency.
Not to mention the cowboys and saints hate each other. I doubt the cavs really cared about the heat until now
Posted on 7/9/10 at 8:29 am to Pilot Tiger
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how is it not?? They're both free to go where they want and they colluded with other players to join a team they think gives them the best chance at winning? It's the same freaking thing
Because there are only 5 basketball players on the court at 1 time. And only 12 on a team. And an individual player has an infinitely greater impact on a basketball game than a football game. Not to mention the fact that there are at least 10 other CFB programs every year where players are doing the same thing. It actually helps level the playing field(for the top teams). C'mon Pilot, you're smarter than this.
Posted on 7/9/10 at 8:31 am to Hot Carl
quote:the sport is irrelevant. The basic premise is the same. you know it.
Because there are only 5 basketball players on the court at 1 time. And only 12 on a team.
colluding with other players to join a team that gives you the best chance at winning is a perfectly normal thing regardless of the sport. it doesnt matter if hs recruits do it when choosing a college and it doesnt matter that lebron did it. He isn't a coward any more than those hs players are. They want to win. period.
Posted on 7/9/10 at 8:32 am to bomber77
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I put my time in with the Saints, I built them to what they are but Im taking less money to go to the Cowboys. They give me a better chance to win right now"
see that is what's wrong with your post we've built a winner around Drew why would he go to a lesser team? He tried to get Bosh to join him with the cavs, and even with the chance of playing with the best player in the world!!!!(or 2nd) and getting a max deal he didn't want to play/live in cleveland
This post was edited on 7/9/10 at 8:33 am
Posted on 7/9/10 at 8:34 am to Suck Out West
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Wasn't Kobe demanding a trade after getting his arse kicked by the Suns? The Laker front office came through and surrouned him with a team that could win a title. The Cavs front office didn't. Period.
Guess I have to post this again. The Laker front office did nothing major to alleviate Bryant's concerns when he demanded to be traded. The Gasol trade resulted from the Bynum injury and it occurred FOUR months after the season started.
Kobe demands trade 5-30-2007
Season Starts 10-30-2007
Lakers Play well 10-30-2007 through 1-13-2008
Proof of Kobe/Lakers playing happily before trade LINK
Bynum Injury 1-13-2008
Gasol Trade 2-1-2008.
This post was edited on 7/9/10 at 8:46 am
Posted on 7/9/10 at 8:34 am to ScoopAndScore
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Can't compare. Brees is not a weak minded follower.
I agree totally. The point is that this whole thing and the way he handled it was like a bitch-whore. He's been planning this shite for a while too. Thats why he only signed a 3 year extention. It was hard if not impossible for Cavs management to sign any big time free agents when they all already knew "the Chosen One" was leaving.
frick that bitch!
Posted on 7/9/10 at 8:37 am to VOR
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Call me old fashioned, but I agree with Jeff Van Gundy. James should have made a phone call to Dan Gilbert and tell him of his decision before that silly assed t.v. special. Just common courtesy considering the circumstances.
According to Gilbert, Lebron completely stopped speaking with everyone in the Cavs organization after the season ended. It would have been nice for him to at least let them know so they could move on instead of holding them hostage.
This post was edited on 7/9/10 at 8:38 am
Posted on 7/9/10 at 8:42 am to bomber77
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frick that bitch!
Yet he did NOTHING wrong. Its AMERICA man.
Posted on 7/9/10 at 8:45 am to Pilot Tiger
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the sport is irrelevant.
Maybe to you, but not to me. If this were baseball or football, I wouldn't care at all. But great players on a basketball team are a much bigger advantage than great players on a football or baseball team. The Yankees went 10 years without winning a World Series with the highest payroll in baseball. The Colts couldn't even get to the AFC Championship game for the longest time with Peyton Manning, Marvin Harrison, Edgerin James, Dwight Freeney.
Individual players in basetball have a significantly greater impact than they do in other sports. Do you not agree?
Posted on 7/9/10 at 8:46 am to Sammobile
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see that is what's wrong with your post we've built a winner around Drew why would he go to a lesser team?
Without Brees the Saints are basically a 500 team. Does anyone really not think that?
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