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re: Who are the top 10 head coaches in college football?
Posted on 2/4/12 at 6:45 pm to 7thWardTiger
Posted on 2/4/12 at 6:45 pm to 7thWardTiger
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Miles and company sure whooped up on kelly and the Ducks, as well as being 3-3 against Saban, abd whooping up on Stoops while at OSU. Who would you put higher than Miles besides Saban and Meyer?
Miles is a great Motivator/makes kids play hard for him/fired up CEO type of coach. However he is not a great X and O type coach. And he is a terrible game manager/clock manager. Miles is not a smart guy, the whole world knows that. Anyone who even listens to him speak can tell that. Miles has a brilliant D coordinator however and his teams are always loaded with much talent. LSU would be tons better if LSU used Miles great CEO type skills but kept his hands out of the offense and let a OC really run things there. LSU was the only team in American history to get shut out in a BCS game, let alone BCS Title game. And Miles ran and managed that shut out, no show offense. You can't deny this.
Miles is a great coach, but only on one level(CEO/motivator type). But on actual game management/coaching skills/smarts any other coach on these other guys top 10 lists are way better. In that, Miles does not even sniff a list. Disagree? Then let me ask you, lets reverse teams and switch out Les Miles at LSU for Chip Kelly and vice versa. How would Miles do head coaching Oregon and running his Offense there? How would Chip Kelly do head coaching LSU and running LSU's Offense? I think this answers your question...
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Posted on 2/4/12 at 6:58 pm to DucksflyinPAC
You are just stupid..
Posted on 2/4/12 at 7:09 pm to ianharwood
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ianharwood
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1. Nick Saban, Bama - Legend
2. Urban Meyer, aOSU - Legend
3. Chris Peterson, BSU - Overachiever
4. Bob Stoops, OU - Elite but can't win when it counts
5. Lane Kiffen, USC - Emerging Elite
6. Bill Snyder, KSU - Most Veteran
7. Chip Kelly, UO - Innovator
8. Mike Gundy, Okie Lite - Emerging Elite
9. Steve Spurrier, USCe - Veteran
10. Kyle Whittingham, Utah - deserved a mention
Posted on 2/4/12 at 7:21 pm to DucksflyinPAC
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How would Chip Kelly do head coaching LSU and running LSU's Offense?
I shutter at the thought of Kelly coaching in the SEC. His track record shows that he hasn't fared well against teams with legitimate lines from other conferences (some of the those games were pretty ugly).
Posted on 2/4/12 at 7:48 pm to DucksflyinPAC
Top 5 Good Motivator type Head Coaches. All these get the most out of the players and the players respect and love to play hard for them.
1)Les Miles
2)Mike Gundy
3)Gary patterson
4)Chris Peterson
5)Chip Kelly
Top 10 CEO-knows how to run a program- Head Coaches. Ability to turn around a bad program and make it good.
1)Urban Meyer
2)Nick Saban
3)Chip Kelly
4)Chris Peterson
5)Steve Spurrier
6)Gary patterson
7)Bob Stoops
8)Bobby Petrino
9)Frank Beamer
10)Bill Snyder
Top 10 Offensive or Defensive brains Head Coaches.(X and O masters)(did the best with the talent he had to work with, masters at their skill).
1)Chip Kelly #1 Offensive mind
2)Nick Saban #1 Defensive mind
3)Gary patterson #2 Defensive mind
4)Dana Holgorsen #2 Offensive mind
5)Chris Peterson #3 Offensive mind
6)Steve Spurrier #4 Offensive mind
7)Bob Stopps #5 Offensive mind
8)Urban Meyer #6 Offensive mind
9)Lane Kiffen #7 Offensive mind
10)Frank Beemer #3 Defensive mind
imo...
1)Les Miles
2)Mike Gundy
3)Gary patterson
4)Chris Peterson
5)Chip Kelly
Top 10 CEO-knows how to run a program- Head Coaches. Ability to turn around a bad program and make it good.
1)Urban Meyer
2)Nick Saban
3)Chip Kelly
4)Chris Peterson
5)Steve Spurrier
6)Gary patterson
7)Bob Stoops
8)Bobby Petrino
9)Frank Beamer
10)Bill Snyder
Top 10 Offensive or Defensive brains Head Coaches.(X and O masters)(did the best with the talent he had to work with, masters at their skill).
1)Chip Kelly #1 Offensive mind
2)Nick Saban #1 Defensive mind
3)Gary patterson #2 Defensive mind
4)Dana Holgorsen #2 Offensive mind
5)Chris Peterson #3 Offensive mind
6)Steve Spurrier #4 Offensive mind
7)Bob Stopps #5 Offensive mind
8)Urban Meyer #6 Offensive mind
9)Lane Kiffen #7 Offensive mind
10)Frank Beemer #3 Defensive mind
imo...
Posted on 2/4/12 at 8:15 pm to ianharwood
Lane Kiffin
He's at fricking USC. A dead man could recruit top 10 classes to that place.
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the ability to recruit is his strongest asset
He's at fricking USC. A dead man could recruit top 10 classes to that place.
Posted on 2/4/12 at 8:21 pm to mattz1122
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How would Chip Kelly do head coaching LSU and running LSU's Offense?
I shutter at the thought of Kelly coaching in the SEC. His track record shows that he hasn't fared well against teams with legitimate lines from other conferences (some of the those games were pretty ugly).
I can see this went over your head. Chip Kelly would be playing with LSU players, not Oregon's if Kelly was the head coach at LSU. Thus he would get all your players(beefy ones) to work with.
Posted on 2/4/12 at 8:27 pm to DucksflyinPAC
And completely misuse them.
Posted on 2/4/12 at 8:30 pm to DucksflyinPAC
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1)Chip Kelly #1 Offensive mind
2)Nick Saban #1 Defensive mind
Posted on 2/4/12 at 8:36 pm to bddwolfpack
1. Gene Chizik
2-10. Gene Chizik
2-10. Gene Chizik
Posted on 2/4/12 at 9:30 pm to hendersonshands
Saban
Meyer
Peterson/Patterson
Miles
Petrino
C. Kelly
Spurrier
Fitzgerald
Stoops
Bret Bielema
Meyer
Peterson/Patterson
Miles
Petrino
C. Kelly
Spurrier
Fitzgerald
Stoops
Bret Bielema
Posted on 2/5/12 at 12:03 am to DucksflyinPAC
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Top 10 CEO-knows how to run a program- Head Coaches. Ability to turn around a bad program and make it good.
1)Urban Meyer
2)Nick Saban
3)Chip Kelly
4)Chris Peterson
5)Steve Spurrier
6)Gary patterson
Ducksfly, I'm duck fan and I think your being a bit myopic. Kelly inherited a very decent team from Bellotti and has been a head coach for only three years. He has absolutely no track record of turning around a program. And the same could be said about Peterson. He inherited a good team from Hawkins, who in turn inherited a solid program from Koetter. In order for Peterson to truly be considered elite, he needs to take the plunge and accept a job at a high profile school (and hope he has a better track record than his former bosses).
This post was edited on 2/5/12 at 12:06 am
Posted on 2/5/12 at 12:20 am to bddwolfpack
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3. Bob Stoops, Oklahoma
Shut up. Just shut the frick up.
Posted on 2/5/12 at 12:35 am to HT713
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Kiffin should never have even come up in this thread. Terrible in Oakland, terrible at Tenn, this is his first year that could really matter. WE'll see how he does.
The dude is a Kardashian, I guess. Basically has done nothing of substance and yet is on every star gazers A list.
Posted on 2/5/12 at 1:41 am to Con Bro Chill
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Ducksfly, I'm duck fan and I think your being a bit myopic. Kelly inherited a very decent team from Bellotti and has been a head coach for only three years. He has absolutely no track record of turning around a program. And the same could be said about Peterson. He inherited a good team from Hawkins, who in turn inherited a solid program from Koetter. In order for Peterson to truly be considered elite, he needs to take the plunge and accept a job at a high profile school (and hope he has a better track record than his former bosses).
Child Please... I never said qualifications for my list had to be coaches that took over bad programs and made them good. I said the "ability" to do so. Meaning, do they have the smarts or dedication or skills that you could picture them being able to do that. And I don't think ranking Kelly or Peterson as high has any bias in my view. I easily picture a Kelly and Peterson to be able to turn around a program like a WSU, Vandy, Indiana or anyone. We will never know cause they are not at those places. But I bet both those guys would not struggle in doing so if given the chance. And it seems I am not alone in my view as both guys have had TONS and TONS(more Peterson)of other offers from all the other CFB schools begging them to run their program.
BTW, nice first post. Nice Alter. Keeping posting under it unto me and I will send you into apoplexy...
Posted on 2/5/12 at 2:14 am to Con Bro Chill
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Con Bro Chill
Its ok. Pretty much everyone here knows that guy is a retarded old man.
Posted on 2/5/12 at 2:26 am to SohCahToa
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Its ok. Pretty much everyone here knows that guy is a retarded old man.
Brilliant retort...Am in my 30's btw...
Posted on 2/5/12 at 3:01 am to DucksflyinPAC
First and foremost I'm not an alter just level-headed.
Second, top coaches such as Saban, Miles, and to a lesser extent Stoops have revived programs (OU fans still disavow the 90's) and won championships. They have built their programs and have produced results on the field, not in the imaginations of fans.
Coach Kelly, as much as you could picture him building an incredible program from the ground up, has been fortunate as a head coach to fall into the situation that he has. He got lucky enough to be hired to head a consistent winner and as such needs to be judged on more results than just three years worth. Can he sustain it? Hopefully. But maybe he pulls a Tedford by elevating a program to new heights and then settling back into mediocrity. Its still too soon to tell, but the future certainly looks bright for him.
Second, top coaches such as Saban, Miles, and to a lesser extent Stoops have revived programs (OU fans still disavow the 90's) and won championships. They have built their programs and have produced results on the field, not in the imaginations of fans.
Coach Kelly, as much as you could picture him building an incredible program from the ground up, has been fortunate as a head coach to fall into the situation that he has. He got lucky enough to be hired to head a consistent winner and as such needs to be judged on more results than just three years worth. Can he sustain it? Hopefully. But maybe he pulls a Tedford by elevating a program to new heights and then settling back into mediocrity. Its still too soon to tell, but the future certainly looks bright for him.
Posted on 2/5/12 at 8:04 am to DucksflyinPAC
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Brilliant retort...Am in my 30's btw...
With the mind of a 12 year old.
Chip Kelly may belong on a list like this someday. Right now, he hasn't earned a spot but he will if he can sustain his success over a 10 year or longer period.
And...you're a class 1 idiot if you think Kellu could go into Indiana and turn that program around. They will never be able to recruit well enough to overcome the big names they go up against on the recruiting trail. They live on scraps.
This post was edited on 2/5/12 at 8:06 am
Posted on 2/5/12 at 8:38 am to VABuckeye
Man, 6 pages of discussion and not one mention of Mark Dantonio as a top 10 coach? I'd have him between 6-10, and certainly ahead of guys like Bielema and Hoke.
Dantonio has a better record than Saban at MSU, plus he inherited a program that was pretty bad under Bobby Williams and then John L Smith.
Dantonio has a better record than Saban at MSU, plus he inherited a program that was pretty bad under Bobby Williams and then John L Smith.
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