re: Who are the most exciting CFB players to watch, which will be playing in 2012?

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I'm of the belief that nobody truly knows anything about what's going to happen. The only thing people can do is speculate based on the offenses committed, previous rulings with similar offenses, and how much the NCAA might want to make an example of Oregon so that this doesn't happen again.

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Well, the fact is that the NCAA sent a summary disposition draft to Oregon. Chris Dodd basically came out and all but said this would end well for Oregon after seeing the document. Anyway, I am more inclined to say that it will end with something more akin to USC(E) than USC(W). Of course, I admit that the whole process could unfoil and go adverserial quickly, if some of that redacted material implicates Oregon in much more severe infractions.

I think Grinolds and co are leading the charge in getting severe sanction rumors out there.

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dukke v

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I do not seek you out. But every time I come on here and post, you seek me out.

As for saying to your face. No problem. I find your bark louder then your bite.

The reason I bring up where you live is because you fit that classic profile of where you live. Personally I could care less where you live. Living in a 1million dollar house or under a bridge means no difference to me. A guy can fail with logic either way. But there are certain stereotypes. And you fit them.

As for me, it is not I who have the obsession with you, but rather you with me. And well, I don't fall for your pathetic attempts to intimate people. It basically is, if you do not like me showing you to be a ranter, then pick someone elts to stalk and harass. How about you just talk to someone elts? How about you just ignore me? But are you able to? Doubt it...

Yeah, they just need to hurry up and announce the penalties. Chris Dodd only saw as much as we all saw though. Who knows what was in the redacted sections. The main thing that I think Duck fans should be worried about is that Kelly attempted to cover it up by throwing together a quick package of what you received for $25,000 and it all turned out to be completely useless. Direct head coach involvement and a potential cover up would make me worry if it was my program. I wish there was a timeline so we could know when to expect the announcement.

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I'm of the belief that nobody truly knows anything about what's going to happen. The only thing people can do is speculate based on the offenses committed, previous rulings with similar offenses, and how much the NCAA might want to make an example of Oregon so that this doesn't happen again.

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If you really believe that then you do not understand the case that well. It is not the NCAA against Oregon. It is the NCAA investigating the whole issue of street agents in general, not just UO.

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Yeah, they just need to hurry up and announce the penalties. Chris Dodd only saw as much as we all saw though. Who knows what was in the redacted sections. The main thing that I think Duck fans should be worried about is that Kelly attempted to cover it up by throwing together a quick package of what you received for $25,000 and it all turned out to be completely useless. Direct head coach involvement and a potential cover up would make me worry if it was my program. I wish there was a timeline so we could know when to expect the announcement.

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He did that before there was an investigation. So, it's not a coverup. I work in a highly regulated industry. Everyone tries to create a paperwork trail to justify their actions. The problem is when you do it during the ivestigation. That is - you impede an investigation. Chip did not do that.

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Getting access to to recruits or letting your players get dicounts on tatts and cars?

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Facts.

Tatoos yes. Cars no.

Who LET them get the deals on the tatoos? They did it themselves. The university had nothing to do with that. The big crime is that Tressel lied and covered it up. His penalty is as harsh as they come.

Buying recruits? Pretty big trangression there as well. Again, on the coach.

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I do not seek you out. But every time I come on here and post, you seek me out.

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I am not the only one. I seek NOBODY. Just its so easy to own your arse after almost every post you make on here.

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As for saying to your face. No problem.

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BRING IT.

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The reason I bring up where you live is because you fit that classic profile of where you live

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What a dumbass. BTW YES I live in a trailer park and do very well. I can ASSURE you thatI have shite in my home that is way better than anything your momma has at her place where you sit on the PC in the basement.

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As for me, it is not I who have the obsession with you, but rather you with me.

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I have ZERO to do with you except as stated above when you post shite I will come back at ya. BOTTOM LINE is that you are still very wet behind the ears as fars as sports knowledge, it needs alot of work. BUt carry on if you wish.You are only making a fool of yourself.

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It basically is, if you do not like me showing you to be a ranter,

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I am a ranter in your little mind. I am NO LSU homer at all. I speak very critical of LSU as ANYONE on here will atest to.

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How about you just talk to someone elts

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ELTS?????? Is that how YOU were taught to spell and say it???????????

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Didn't Tressell know and report it to no one? That was the part of the issue, right?

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He didn't know about it when it happened. It came up in an investigation of the tatoo parlor owner and he was informed of it in an email. He choose to sit on the email. That was what ultimately cost him his job. He knew about it in March and it wasn't made public until December. He still sat on the information and it was found that he had the information since March in January of the following year.

The players would have simply had several game suspensions if he'd forwarded the email.

Please note I am not defending Tressel. I have little respect for the man after his actions. He preached character, honesty and integrity and wasn't living what he preached. As I stated earlier, I do not tolerate hypocrites.

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If we cheated, we cheated mostly by flirting around grey lines. We hardly cheated more then tOSU. That is a arse kiss. And that is laughable.

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We had a known scout service owner, who we made a payment to, make an on campus visit with a recruit(s) and Chip personally thanked him with a hand written letter. Nothing gray in that. I have no idea what the NCAA does. You can't even compare it to someone else's (elts) situation because the NCAA is so inconsistant. We'll see.