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re: Who actually likes “travel ball”

Posted on 5/15/23 at 9:15 pm to
Posted by lsu777
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Posted on 5/15/23 at 9:15 pm to
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Most are lamenting that tournament ball has completely killed middle to upper middle level competition.


What? Go play low level aaa ball or aa ball then
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
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Posted on 5/15/23 at 9:17 pm to
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DFW suburbs 6A level. It’s decent baseball. A few years ago I coached a 1st round draft pick who played boys and girls club until he was 14, obviously he was an outlier but my point is the same. Have a kid this year who is 92-95 and going to Oklahoma and he didn’t start playing club baseball until the summer after his freshman year. Lots of stories like that


So your point is to pull out the exceptions to the rule to try and prove a point? Of course their are exceptions but they are rarer than that 95 mph fastball that kid is throwing
Posted by SmackDaniels
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Posted on 5/15/23 at 9:18 pm to
WTF is this boards obsession with travel ball?
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 5/15/23 at 9:19 pm to
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So your point is to pull out the exceptions to the rule to try and prove a point? Of course their are exceptions but they are rarer than that 95 mph fastball that kid is throwing


He’s too busy taking credit for all the travel ball kids carrying his daily resume and him pretending like he has to even coach kids up these days
Posted by Stevo
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Posted on 5/15/23 at 9:19 pm to
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Most people aren’t arguing this. Most are lamenting that tournament ball has completely killed middle to upper middle level competition.


Not true.
Posted by BatonrougeCajun
Somewhere in Texas
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Posted on 5/15/23 at 9:20 pm to
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So what’s your point though in reality, at least these kids played competitive ball and had great memories for a few years than having nothing at all. It’s not like if they didn’t play travel ball, they would have been better off, that’s not true at all


I have no problem with kids playing club baseball or parents who want to pay for it. I’m glad they are doing something they love that will serve as a motivator and a discipline while having fun making like minded friends.

My issue is the people who gaslight parents into thinking that if they don’t pony up for it than their kid will be left behind.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 5/15/23 at 9:24 pm to
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My issue is the people who gaslight parents into thinking that if they don’t pony up for it than their kid will be left behind.


My kids never played w, I’ll call it overhead organizations,… It’s just finding good teams w hopefully coaches/dads that do a good job of coaching fundamentals that the kids excel together playing high caliber ball.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
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Posted on 5/15/23 at 9:31 pm to
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Those are the top two Now go down the 5A rankings. It might be a while before you get to a team where it isn’t the case


Not just 5a. Div 1&2 most of 3&4 are all the same way, the starters for sure.

I can tell you, you aren’t making any of the big teams in swla without playing high level travel unless you are just a freak. Pretty sure only SH has one and kid is a freak and even he will prolly never play because he is so far behind on the skills that scale.

It is what it is. Just like the parents that think kids lifting weights is insane. Just like parents that think holding kids to straight As is insane. Same people think training for something like velo or bat speed is insane.

That’s ok, some people are ok with being average and cheering from the stands. Some people have a desire to be on the actual field of play.

That’s what’s laughable when someone like sfp starts talking about the absurdity of it…dude never played sports, doesn’t have kids in sports(or at all)and has no clue on an form of training for sports or physical development and what it takes. And I love sfp but he is coming from a place of complete and utter ignorance.

Those talking about parents living through the kids?? Are you fricking kidding? Yea like I wanted to go spend 2.5 hours on a Monday hitting with my kids on their day off from practice. shite sucks but my kids absolutely love it and we’re waiting by the door when I got home, so I suck that shot up and be a good dad and go spend time with them doing what they love. I would have much rather jumped in the pool, I promise.

I mean what am I supposed to say…no buddy you are working too hard, can’t have that, how dare you work your arse off to pursue your dreams!! I mean since when is supporting your kids and their goals “living through the kid” and being anything but a good father?

Do y’all think kids don’t watch YouTube? Think they haven’t watched Donovan lasalles grand slam over and over again and dreaming of their chance? Cause I can promise my boys have it on repeat day and night on the living room tv. My boys aren’t the only ones either, that’s no living through your kids, that’s kids having a desire to be awesome and so be a winner and setting goals to get their.

Sorry some of y’all who have never played a sport don’t understand.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
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Posted on 5/15/23 at 9:32 pm to
Wtf are you talking about? In south Louisiana it cost 1200-2k for travel, nobody is getting rich off this in south Louisiana at the youth level lol

And if you think you can play rec and not get left behind
Posted by BatonrougeCajun
Somewhere in Texas
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 5/15/23 at 9:35 pm to
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So your point is to pull out the exceptions to the rule to try and prove a point? Of course their are exceptions but they are rarer than that 95 mph fastball that kid is throwing


Ok a more modest example. We had our banquet tonight and our freshman team was 23-4 this year. They are a good bunch, most of them have played club for at least two years. The freshman team mvp is a rec league kid who will play his first club ball this summer. He has a chance to start as a soph for us. I can you a lot more examples like that but I know you don’t really care.



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Posted by OldmanBeasley
Charlotte
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 5/15/23 at 9:37 pm to
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Sorry some of y’all who have never played a sport don’t understand.

Chill out uncle Rico
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 5/15/23 at 9:43 pm to
Again no clue. There are 4-5 players per hs team in each class starting. So how you have enough to make 3-4 decent travel teams in each age group. One team usually has way better coaching and ends up way better. So what you want them to play same 3 teams over and over?

Yea you have no clue wtf you are talking about. If you ever want to learn be more than happy to bring you and show you. And yea you have to travel but not much.

If you have a good team, just get in 2d select series and play the usssa invite only in Alex, 2d nit in Ruston and the 2 pg nits in BR and you have bad arse schedule and never have to leave the state. But if you think you don’t have to leave the parish

There is a reason why the HS are so good hear and it isn’t from only playing local.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 5/15/23 at 9:44 pm to
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a more modest example. We had our banquet tonight and our freshman team was 23-4 this year. They are a good bunch, most of them have played club for at least two years. The freshman team mvp is a rec league kid who will play his first club ball this summer. He has a chance to start as a soph for us. I can you a lot more examples like that but I know you don’t really care.


Cool maybe your rec leagues are different there in dfw than in south Louisiana because what you are describing isn’t happening here
Posted by BatonrougeCajun
Somewhere in Texas
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 5/15/23 at 9:44 pm to
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And if you think you can play rec and not get left behind


You were posting pretty heavy about Barbe the other day so I’m assuming that you are near or around that program and maybe that’s where your kid is going. That’s certainly a different animal than most high school programs, I can’t speak for how GC runs that program other than I admire the hell out of it.

The reality is being really athletic and talented is the first part. If you don’t have that and are doing everything you can to fight to keep up than eventually you’re going to get passed up, even if you’ve played 100 games every year since you were 9.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 5/15/23 at 9:45 pm to
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Chill out uncle Rico


Na bro, I sucked in HS. Played but sucked. I was the smart kid on the sports teams.

Just get tired of idiots who have never played, don’t have kids and have no clue running at the mouth
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 5/15/23 at 9:49 pm to
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Cool maybe your rec leagues are different there in dfw than in south Louisiana because what you are describing isn’t happening here


Because every half way decent rec kid has been moved to some exclusive tournament team apparently. I had a coworker tell me if your kid isn’t out of rec ball by 10 then there is not point in continuing playing.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
38003 posts
Posted on 5/15/23 at 9:50 pm to
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You were posting pretty heavy about Barbe the other day so I’m assuming that you are near or around that program and maybe that’s where your kid is going. That’s certainly a different animal than most high school programs, I can’t speak for how GC runs that program other than I admire the hell out of it. The reality is being really athletic and talented is the first part. If you don’t have that and are doing everything you can to fight to keep up than eventually you’re going to get passed up, even if you’ve played 100 games every year since you were 9.


Not sure if mine will go barbe or St. Louis but prolly ST Louis. But all the schools around here are like that. Sulphur, Sam Houston, St. Louis, barbe etc.

And anyone playing 100 games a year is retarded. Games are just to learn to compete and learn the game. You get better in training.

And of course if you aren’t busting your arse in the weight room, running bat speed and velo programs in the off season, aren’t eating to gain weight and aren’t chasing the metrics for skills that scale of course you will get passed

But between driveline, bill Miller, dr heenan, thread, creasey, explosive mechanics etc etc it’s all laid out for you. Just have to put in the work. Not to mention the batting instructions is amazing online now, all for free. Just takes work
This post was edited on 5/15/23 at 9:54 pm
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
38003 posts
Posted on 5/15/23 at 9:52 pm to
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Because every half way decent rec kid has been moved to some exclusive tournament team apparently. I had a coworker tell me if your kid isn’t out of rec ball by 10 then there is not point in continuing playing.


My oldest is 12, your coworker is right, he’ll even by 8 there is a huge difference….huge.

Why is that? Kids that were the same at tball…one stays in league, other goes travel…travel kid by 8 is usually much further ahead. They prolly both played multiple sports outside of baseball too. But travel kid, especially with good org, will be working the skills that scale like throwing hard, swinging the bat fast, learning mechanics learning glove work etc and will be way way past the rec league kid.

Even if the travel kid only plays 30-35 games….will still be way way past the rec kids.
Posted by BatonrougeCajun
Somewhere in Texas
Member since Feb 2008
7591 posts
Posted on 5/15/23 at 9:54 pm to
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I had a coworker tell me if your kid isn’t out of rec ball by 10 then there is not point in continuing playing.


This is the way of thinking that I have a problem with
Posted by OldmanBeasley
Charlotte
Member since Jun 2014
11172 posts
Posted on 5/15/23 at 9:55 pm to
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And of course if you aren’t busting your arse in the weight room, running bat speed and velo programs in the off season, aren’t eating to gain weight and aren’t chasing the metrics for skills that scale of course you will get passed

That’s how you burn a kid out.
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