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re: Which team grabs the last CFB Playoff spot?
Posted on 12/1/14 at 1:35 pm to SabiDojo
Posted on 12/1/14 at 1:35 pm to SabiDojo
In fairness, the SEC West did go 28-0 OOC including their 4th and 5th placed teams getting victories over Kansas St and Wisconsin.
That's probably the best divisional performance by a long way since leagues began dividing.
SEC East was not even up to par with an ACC division this year.
That's probably the best divisional performance by a long way since leagues began dividing.
SEC East was not even up to par with an ACC division this year.
This post was edited on 12/1/14 at 1:38 pm
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Posted on 12/1/14 at 1:36 pm to SabiDojo
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The B1G record may not be impressive, but they played 17 games, as did the ACC.
Not only did the SEC schedule weakly, but they couldn't even break .500. Embarrassing. What a down year for the SEC.
When you consider there is 14 SEC Teams. Each team has 4 OOC opponents, which means there are a total of 56 OOC games and 10 against P5 schools. Not to mention games that are played due to rivalries. That icludes in state rival games as well (clemson vs USC, Florida vs Florida State, Georgia vs. GTech).
Posted on 12/1/14 at 1:37 pm to wm72
The problem is only Auburn, LSU, and Alabama scheduled someone worth a shite. Alabama struggled against the 6th best team in the Big 12.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 1:37 pm to VABuckeye
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There is a good possibility that the B1G will have three current top 10 teams after tomorrow night. The SEC will have two at most.
Why are we even discussing the B1G like it's a relevant football conference? It should be renamed "The teams Ohio State beats up on until the end of the year when they choke their way out of a title game appearance."
You had better hope they don't let Ohio State into the playoff, because we've seen that movie way too many times already.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 1:38 pm to wm72
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In fairness, the SEC West did go 28-0 OOC including their 4th and 5th placed teams getting victories over Kansas St and Wisconsin.
That's probably the best divisional performance by a long way since leagues began dividing.
Of those 28 opponents, only five (Wisconsin, Kansas State, Texas Tech, Boise State and West Virginia) are worth mentioning. The other 23 are members of the bum-of-the-month club.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 1:41 pm to SabiDojo
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And if you are the only team out of the P5 playoff contenders to not win your conference, do you have a right to complain if you're left out?
Eh, they don't even have a conference championship game. Neither team has the right to complain if they are left out.
ETA: Also, check this out
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This post was edited on 12/1/14 at 1:44 pm
Posted on 12/1/14 at 1:42 pm to SabiDojo
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Alabama struggled against the 6th best team in the Big 12.
Yeah, but again in fairness, not nearly as much as Baylor or TCU struggled with them.
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The problem is only Auburn, LSU, and Alabama scheduled someone worth a shite.
Yeah, I'd add that Arkansas usually plays a good OOC games it's just that Texas Tech ended up being so bad this year.
Ole Miss played Boise St which is ok but Texas A&M and Miss St certainly scheduled like Baylor.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 1:57 pm to SabiDojo
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The problem is only Auburn, LSU, and Alabama scheduled someone worth a shite. Alabama struggled against the 6th best team in the Big 12.
I would add Ole Miss and Arkansas to that list. It's not Arkansas' fault that Texas Tech is down and Boise State is ranked and likely headed to the Fiesta Bowl.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 1:59 pm to trackfan
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It's not Arkansas' fault that Texas Tech is down
You could say the same thing for FSU for their schedule, but you won't.
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Boise State is ranked and likely headed to the Fiesta Bowl.
The team that lost by double digits to Air Force?
Posted on 12/1/14 at 2:01 pm to trackfan
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Of those 28 opponents, only five (Wisconsin, Kansas State, Texas Tech, Boise State and West Virginia) are worth mentioning. The other 23 are members of the bum-of-the-month club.
Certainly.
However, did the Big12 have OOC wins remotely equal to even these few?
I'm just pointing out that there's a lot of both pro-SEC and anti-SEC spin in these threads that doesn't even attempt to be objective.
This post was edited on 12/1/14 at 2:02 pm
Posted on 12/1/14 at 2:04 pm to Epic Cajun
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Except for the fact that they beat TCU at home by only 3 points, while losing to an inferior team, also at home.
A W is a W, and head-to-head is about as good of a tiebreaker as there is.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 2:06 pm to SabiDojo
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It's not Arkansas' fault that Texas Tech is down
You could say the same thing for FSU for their schedule, but you won't.
It's not Arkansas' fault only insofar as you can't criticize their scheduling attempt.
However, you can't give them credit for beating a good team either.
I don't think that many are criticizing Florida St's attempt at scheduling. It's fine.
The criticism is simply that none of the "good" teams they scheduled are actually good this year.
The ACC Ga Tech win over Georgia is the first result that helps them in a while but it's not like it really matters since they're in anyway of they win.
Their OOC opponents were all huge letdowns.
This post was edited on 12/1/14 at 2:09 pm
Posted on 12/1/14 at 2:08 pm to wm72
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The criticism is simply that none of the "good" they scheduled are actually good this year.
Yet they played in a conference that went
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ACC 10-7 .588
in nonconference P5 play.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 2:10 pm to SabiDojo
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You could say the same thing for FSU for their schedule, but you won't.
What the hell are you talking about? I strongly commend schools like FSU, UCLA and USC for their non-conference scheduling this year.
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The team that lost by double digits to Air Force?
What's your point? That getting upset by a 9-win wishbone team in Colorado Springs high altitude invalidates their whole season? Or is it that Boise State wasn't a worthy opponent when Ole Miss scheduled them three years ago, back when they were loaded with NFL talent and were taking P5 teams to the woodshed every time they played them?
Posted on 12/1/14 at 2:11 pm to wm72
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I'm just pointing out that there's a lot of both pro-SEC and anti-SEC spin in these threads that doesn't even attempt to be objective.
You could change out SEC with the acronym for any other P5 conference and your point would still be valid.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 2:14 pm to trackfan
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What the hell are you talking about? I strongly commend schools like FSU, UCLA and USC for their non-conference scheduling this year.
My mistake. It's common on here to see people bash FSU for their scheduling. I'm surprised so many people hate ND on here. They routinely schedule some of the traditionally toughest opponents.
I apologize for lumping you in that group of hooligans.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 2:14 pm to SabiDojo
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Yet they played in a conference that went
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ACC 10-7 .588
in nonconference P5 play.
This stat looks great but are there actually many quality wins (some team that's at least somewhat close to the Top25) in those 10?
The Clemson, Georgia and Georgia Tech matchups are the only ones that spring to mind.
I'm also not knocking FSU's attmept at scheduling either. It was actually among the best.
It's simply that I see the point people make when they say FSU's schedule didn't really offer the same Top10 threats to beat them that some other top teams faced this year through no fault of scheduling.
This post was edited on 12/1/14 at 2:22 pm
Posted on 12/1/14 at 2:15 pm to wm72
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Certainly.
However, did the Big12 have OOC wins remotely equal to even these few?
I'm just pointing out that there's a lot of both pro-SEC and anti-SEC spin in these threads that doesn't even attempt to be objective.
The Big 12 and PAC 12 play nine conference games, so they start out with one de facto OOC P5 game before they schedule anybody.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 2:16 pm to wm72
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This stat looks great but are there actually many quality wins (some team that's at least somewhat close to the Top25) in those 10?
At the time they played them or currently ranked? I'm assuming the latter.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 2:25 pm to wm72
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The Clemson, Georgia and Georgia Tech matchups are the only ones that spring to mind
Well, the biggest one which you didn't mention would be VA Tech over Ohio State.
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