re: Where each Heisman winner signed and where they won the Heisman in the CFP Era

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here are the facts:

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You responded to a post with nothing but objective facts. You can't even refute anything in my post so you, instead, moved the goalposts. Good for you

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You responded to a post with nothing but objective facts. You can't even refute anything in my post so you, instead, moved the goalposts. Good for you

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Oh i see, putting actual facts in a posts is moving the goal posts now. You can't make this stuff up.

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putting actual facts in a posts is moving the goal posts now

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In the manner in which you did it, yes, absolutely. This whole argument is about the "Saban effect" and the years following it. So a post was made about what he did while at LSU and what happened in the several years that followed (i.e. dominated Alabama while at LSU and then that dominance wore off after the Saban effect's shine wore off after a few years)

You interjecting series stats about 2000-present and all-time is most certainly moving the goalposts in an attempt to change the argument. It's ignorant and makes no sense in the context of what was being discussed. No one has ever said Alabama hadn't won a lot in Baton Rouge all-time, nor has anyone said that Saban didn't dominate the series once he got to Tuscaloosa (2007-2023). No one has argued Deboer didn't win the last 2 games either. What is germane to the actual argument is that LSU won 4/5 against Alabama while Saban was the coach, then Les Miles won the next 3 after he left. Saban returned, got Alabama going, and dominated the series. Enter Deboer, he's had 2 years. It took a few years under Miles before that Saban effect had run its course. This is where you tell us why that won't happen with Deboer. That would actually follow the argument.

Again, the entire argument has clearly gone over your head.

Then Miles takes the next 2 in 2010 and 2011