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re: Where does Pete Carroll rank as an all time great coach?
Posted on 10/13/19 at 9:59 pm to SD Tider
Posted on 10/13/19 at 9:59 pm to SD Tider
quote:Saban and Bryant aren't any where near the level of NFL legends. Manipulating teens isn't the same as managing grown men
he’s in the same discussion as Saban, Walsh, Bryant, Lombardi, Johnson, Hayes, etc.
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Posted on 10/13/19 at 10:00 pm to AUCE05
I would disagree. Saban has won the same # of championships in a much more competitive era and in half the time. Better win percentage as well.
Posted on 10/13/19 at 10:03 pm to arcalades
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Saban and Bryant aren't any where near the level of NFL legends. Manipulating teens isn't the same as managing grown men
Disagree. Both have their different set of challenges.
Posted on 10/13/19 at 10:06 pm to SD Tider
Saban was given a few mulligans that Bryant wouldn't had. 11 and 17 would have never happened under the old system. Saban has not dominated the SEC like Bryant did that 20 year stretch.
Posted on 10/13/19 at 10:11 pm to AUCE05
Bryant went 103-16-1 from 1970-79.
In this decade, Saban is currently sitting at 119-13.
In this decade, Saban is currently sitting at 119-13.
Posted on 10/13/19 at 10:15 pm to BoardReader
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ated heavily in college, then lucked into a franchise QB on the cheap.
The irony of a sec board taking about cheating.
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lucked into a franchise QB on the cheap.
You mean like most every coach. Packers got Favre for a song. Arod was a late first. Brady?
I guess no credit is given for making Russ a third when every other team missed. And no credit for starting a really short qb.
Posted on 10/13/19 at 10:15 pm to AUCE05
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11 and 17 would have never happened under the old system.
Well under the old system Alabama would have been the champion in 2014, 2016, and 2018.
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Saban has not dominated the SEC like Bryant did that 20 year stretch.
Well again, things are drastically more competitive these days. I’m also not sure that’s true.
Posted on 10/13/19 at 10:18 pm to AUCE05
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Saban was given a few mulligans that Bryant wouldn't had. 11 and 17 would have never happened under the old system.
Bryant was the beneficiary of a pair of mulligans himself: one in 1964 and the other in 1973. In both seasons his teams were voted the national champions of college football before losing their bowl game.
You can't get away with that today.
This post was edited on 10/13/19 at 10:20 pm
Posted on 10/13/19 at 10:20 pm to SD Tider
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Disagree. Both have their different set of challenges.
The schematics still the nfl is WAY WAY tougher.
It’s like comparing high school to college.
Posted on 10/13/19 at 10:20 pm to TT9
I like this play call from Pete Carroll the best
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Posted on 10/13/19 at 10:22 pm to SD Tider
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Win another super bowl or two and he’s in the same discussion as Saban, Walsh, Bryant, Lombardi, Johnson, Hayes, etc.
Ha
Posted on 10/13/19 at 10:26 pm to FightnBobLafollette
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The schematics still the nfl is WAY WAY tougher.
English? Link?
Posted on 10/13/19 at 10:40 pm to TT9
Great coach, but not quite all-time elite. Two AP national titles and one SB title. I would rank him above Barry Switzer, but below Jimmy Johnson. Not on the level of Belichick or Saban or Bill Walsh.
Posted on 10/13/19 at 11:11 pm to TT9
Garbage cheater
Has 0 NCs at U$C
Has one Super Bowl
Not on the list of memorable coaches
Has 0 NCs at U$C
Has one Super Bowl
Not on the list of memorable coaches
Posted on 10/13/19 at 11:15 pm to SD Tider
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English
Schematics is English.
The level of complexity of schemes and playbook don’t even compare.
Posted on 10/13/19 at 11:31 pm to FightnBobLafollette
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Schematics is English.
But your sentence is not.
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The level of complexity of schemes and playbook don’t even compare.
Well obviously. Has nothing to do with the discussion.
Interesting side note: many of Bama’s defensive players have stated that the level of complexity of Alabama’s defensive schemes wasn’t all that different than the NFL.
Posted on 10/13/19 at 11:40 pm to Mr Personality
quote:Very few do it enough to get Heismans and Nattys stricken.
Everyone does that
Posted on 10/14/19 at 12:34 am to TulaneLSU
Dork
Posted on 10/14/19 at 12:39 am to Drewbie
Do what?
It's been like 10 years and not a single person on here has read the NCAA report.
As Ivan Maisel or another rival coach in the Pac 10 said at the time, USC got busted for the crime of USC-ness. Being popular and having celebrities on the sidelines. That was their big crime. Nothing connected USC to the Reggie Bush agent scandal.
In fact, it was against USC's interests to invite such poachers.
They stole their star player.
USC was punished because it was loosey-goosey fun and Carroll was the catalyst and the NCAA thought being a fun program and having celebrities at practices was a violation even though it wasn't against the rules.
Never thought he'd be a good NFL coach because it was all rah-rah in College and NFL players are immune to that.
But he made it work.
He's said that his transformation into becoming a great coach was reading the Inner Game of Tennis.
It's been like 10 years and not a single person on here has read the NCAA report.
As Ivan Maisel or another rival coach in the Pac 10 said at the time, USC got busted for the crime of USC-ness. Being popular and having celebrities on the sidelines. That was their big crime. Nothing connected USC to the Reggie Bush agent scandal.
In fact, it was against USC's interests to invite such poachers.
They stole their star player.
USC was punished because it was loosey-goosey fun and Carroll was the catalyst and the NCAA thought being a fun program and having celebrities at practices was a violation even though it wasn't against the rules.
Never thought he'd be a good NFL coach because it was all rah-rah in College and NFL players are immune to that.
But he made it work.
He's said that his transformation into becoming a great coach was reading the Inner Game of Tennis.
This post was edited on 10/14/19 at 12:44 am
Posted on 10/14/19 at 1:24 am to SD Tider
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But your sentence is not.
Of course it is.
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Well obviously. Has nothing to do with the discussion.
Of course it does. We are discussing coaches.
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Interesting side note: many of Bama’s defensive players have stated that the level of complexity of Alabama’s defensive schemes wasn’t all that different than the NFL
Ok
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