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Where does Lebron's inevitable ten (10) finals losses rank on all-time sports achievements

Posted on 5/28/18 at 6:45 am
Posted by Mac
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Posted on 5/28/18 at 6:45 am
GOAT?
Posted by Errerrerrwere
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Posted on 5/28/18 at 6:46 am to
Right behind Bradshaw I would think.
Posted by zzemme
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Posted on 5/28/18 at 7:21 am to
He may be the only person in history criticized for getting to championships.
Posted by Mr.Perfect
Louisiana
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Posted on 5/28/18 at 7:28 am to
In the weak arse eastern conference???.....yea
This post was edited on 5/28/18 at 7:29 am
Posted by Usm Tiger
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Posted on 5/28/18 at 7:38 am to
To be fair, Tom Brady was criticised a lot for losing those 2 super bowls to the giants. And they refused to put him ahead of Montana because of it. Once tom won 5 they did tho. So I would assume if james ever wins 7 rings he would be ahead of jordan.
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
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Posted on 5/28/18 at 7:41 am to
James passed Jordan years ago as far as who's the better player.
Posted by MSG
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Posted on 5/28/18 at 7:43 am to
How old are you if you don’t mind me asking?
Posted by oleyeller
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Posted on 5/28/18 at 7:56 am to
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Tom Brady was criticised a lot for losing those 2 super bowls to the giants


Tom brady was on MUCH better teams, one of which was freaking undefeated. Brons teams that lost were nowhere near that
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
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Posted on 5/28/18 at 7:56 am to
40.

Grew up thinking I was Jordan. Modeled my game like his. Had the posters, watched every game etc. I remember when Jordan came into the league and talking to my grandad about him as a little kid his rookie year, then I remember his last game when I was in college.

Lebron is better. Period.
This post was edited on 5/28/18 at 7:57 am
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
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Posted on 5/28/18 at 8:04 am to
Also, I'll say this, I've seen both in person as an adult. Jordan a few times in my early college years and LeGoat with the Heat. In person LeGoat is so much bigger and faster than Jordan. The speed Lebron moved up and down the court with his long strides was mind boggling.

Granted, I did not see Jordan in person until his last two seasons with the Bulls when i was in college, but still Lebron with the Heat when I saw him just got from point A to point B noticeably faster. Like incredibly fast.
Posted by crazyLSUfan
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Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 5/28/18 at 8:09 am to
Jim Kelly, Thurman Thomas and Bruce Smith are jelly
This post was edited on 5/28/18 at 8:12 am
Posted by TigerCruise
Virginia Beach, VA
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 5/28/18 at 8:11 am to
LeBron is just a bull. Jordan had more skill.

To me the tie breaker is leadership. Jordan led his teams, LeBron is a cancer.

Also scoring titles and championships make Jordan still the GOAT
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 5/28/18 at 8:14 am to
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Tom brady was on MUCH better teams, one of which was freaking undefeated. Brons teams that lost were nowhere near that


Brady's team went 11-5 when he missed an entire season.

Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 5/28/18 at 8:15 am to
quote:

LeBron is just a bull. Jordan had more skill. To me the tie breaker is leadership. Jordan led his teams, LeBron is a cancer. Also scoring titles and championships make Jordan still the GOAT


Your thread about lebron' block being a foul from last night completely invalidates any basketball opinion you have.
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47824 posts
Posted on 5/28/18 at 8:45 am to
A team cancer doesn’t put the team on his back and make th NBA finals for eight consecutive years my friend

The MJ vs LeBron debate has jumped the shark
This post was edited on 5/28/18 at 8:46 am
Posted by TigrrrDad
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 5/28/18 at 8:54 am to
There is no doubt that Lebron is a physical freak of nature, and the physical aspect is a part of the game - but MJ had better basketball skills.
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
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Posted on 5/28/18 at 9:17 am to
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There is no doubt that Lebron is a physical freak of nature, and the physical aspect is a part of the game - but MJ had better basketball skills.


Dunno man. Defensively I'll call it a wash. Lebron is more versatile and can defend post players and block shots better, but Jordan had better anticipation and stole the ball lot more.

Anyway, offensive skills seem a wash too. Jordan better midrange jumper, lebron better in the post and three point shooter.

It is the overall game that separates them.

Lebron is better because he is more efficient, creates more opportunities for teammates, can win more with less, and is vastly superior in rebounds and assists.

Lebron is just a more complete, more dominant player and frankly surpassed Jordan as goat a few years back.
This post was edited on 5/28/18 at 9:18 am
Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
33937 posts
Posted on 5/28/18 at 10:12 am to
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He may be the only person in history criticized for getting to championships.


Not a person but the '90s Braves were constantly shite on for failing in the postseason even though they made it to five WS.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 5/28/18 at 10:14 am to
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but MJ had better basketball skills.

Then why does LeBron shoot the 3 better?
Posted by TotesMcGotes
New York, New York
Member since Mar 2009
27872 posts
Posted on 5/28/18 at 10:22 am to
I’m not about to enter the LeBron/Michael debate, but using that one stat is disengenuous. The 3 was different then than it is now. Jordan shot less than half per game. Oddly enough, in the seasons when he actually increased his three point shots per game, his percentage went wayyyy up.
This post was edited on 5/28/18 at 10:39 am
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