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re: What year(s) of CFB were the peak of sheer fanaticism and religious zealotry of fandom?
Posted on 4/15/21 at 6:08 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Posted on 4/15/21 at 6:08 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
The 2000s was the peak of college football. Conferences were still basically intact. The sport had all the benefits of being a national sport but without the drawbacks we see today. It was still mostly regional and a lot more traditional powers were constantly competing. We had a diverse array of winners. The sport also still felt regional. It was no doubt better than today.
Posted on 4/15/21 at 6:18 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
I'd say 2000-2011. During that era there was tons of parity and college football was a nationwide sport where every conference seemed to have a national title contender or two every single year. Four major events ruined the sport as far as I'm concerned:
1. Conference Realignment. This is when it became oh so obvious that the sport was becoming more about the money. It also destroyed traditional rivalries. Traditional rivalries, at least in my opinion, is the driving force of collegiate athletics.
2. The Rise of Alabama Football. Everyone loves parity. And in the first decade of the 00s, parity was the name of the game. No single team dominated the sport and that helped drive the popularity of college football during that particular time. Alabama has won six national championships over the course of the last 12 seasons. While I love it as an Alabama fan, I also acknowledge that it hurts the sport.
3. The Fall of the Pac 12. USC and Oregon were some of the most entertaining teams to watch when Pete Carroll and Chip Kelly walked the sidelines at those schools. California, UCLA, and Arizona State were also competitive once upon a time. Not so much anymore. That entire conference has fallen into virtual G5 status. Oregon seems to be the only school still trying right now.
4. The College Football Playoff. This was a good idea on paper but its implementation so far has been disastrous. It has taken all of the fun out of the postseason because the powers that be (ESPN) only care about "Who's In?" and gives hardly any air time to teams that have been mathematically eliminated from the playoffs. That might work when you have 32 teams fighting for 12 slots but that doesn't work so well when you have 130 teams fighting for four slots.
1. Conference Realignment. This is when it became oh so obvious that the sport was becoming more about the money. It also destroyed traditional rivalries. Traditional rivalries, at least in my opinion, is the driving force of collegiate athletics.
2. The Rise of Alabama Football. Everyone loves parity. And in the first decade of the 00s, parity was the name of the game. No single team dominated the sport and that helped drive the popularity of college football during that particular time. Alabama has won six national championships over the course of the last 12 seasons. While I love it as an Alabama fan, I also acknowledge that it hurts the sport.
3. The Fall of the Pac 12. USC and Oregon were some of the most entertaining teams to watch when Pete Carroll and Chip Kelly walked the sidelines at those schools. California, UCLA, and Arizona State were also competitive once upon a time. Not so much anymore. That entire conference has fallen into virtual G5 status. Oregon seems to be the only school still trying right now.
4. The College Football Playoff. This was a good idea on paper but its implementation so far has been disastrous. It has taken all of the fun out of the postseason because the powers that be (ESPN) only care about "Who's In?" and gives hardly any air time to teams that have been mathematically eliminated from the playoffs. That might work when you have 32 teams fighting for 12 slots but that doesn't work so well when you have 130 teams fighting for four slots.
Posted on 4/15/21 at 6:23 pm to RollTide1987
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RollTide1987
Pretty much agree with all.
Posted on 4/15/21 at 6:25 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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It's not like people just put on the 1987 Fiesta Bowl if they didn't care or like football.
That game was played on a Friday night when everyone is going out on dates. It wasn't like a Sunday, when nothing is on TV either and people are staying at home.
Dude it was January 2nd, not like it was a warm spring or summer evening. People were off work for the holiday and it was a one-two matchup with clashing styles. Again you are ignoring the plethora of entertainment options that exist today plus the variety of ways you can watch games as well.
But you are Big 10 PJ so whatever.
Posted on 4/15/21 at 6:27 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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These were the years when all the games became more widely available, but also the years right before the superteams and analytics and what not.
The reality is you simply got older and sports fell further down your priority list so everything seems less important and worse because you’ve changed, not the sport
It happens to most of us. If it doesn’t you usually end up getting in fights with other grown men in opposing team colors.
There’s a 10-21 year old kid right now who still lets their college team losing ruin their entire week and live and die by what happens in their games and in 10-15 years they’ll be thinking the same thing you are right now, that the sport was at its best in their era
This post was edited on 4/15/21 at 6:30 pm
Posted on 4/15/21 at 6:35 pm to xenythx
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2006-2012
It was SEC versus the world.
The SEC clearly won. Undefeated Auburn was left out of the 2004 BCS Championship game, and it wasn’t controversial at all.
No way would that happen by 2010,
Posted on 4/15/21 at 6:47 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
2007. I could name almost the entire LSU roster and was obsessed with recruiting
This post was edited on 4/15/21 at 6:48 pm
Posted on 4/15/21 at 6:48 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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But they saturated it.
this is what has gone wrong with Bowl games.
Players are opting out and in some cases one team might be thrilled to be there while the opponent is not.
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The 1987 Fiesta Bowl is still the highest rated and the only game that comes close in the 2000's was the 2006 Rose Bowl.
and it took 5 interceptions by Vinny Testaverde for Penn St to squeak out a 14-10 victory.
Miami totally embraced the bad guy role.
as good as Miami was back then, they had QB's absolutely shite the bed in some big games.
Testaverde and Gino Toretta look lost vs. Penn St/Alabama respectively.
This post was edited on 4/15/21 at 7:04 pm
Posted on 4/15/21 at 6:57 pm to cardswinagain
07 for sure. We went to a place where we hadn't been since the final year of Devine's tenure and Arrowhead felt like a national title game.
Posted on 4/15/21 at 7:44 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
The state of this title
Posted on 4/15/21 at 7:50 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Two words, one name.
Harvey Updike.
Also, around that time you had very different styles of teams. Some were I-formation smash mouth football. Some were pro-style with one back, 3 wide, some were air raid, some were passing spread, running spread, and even some were triple option. Defense were 4-3, 3-4, 3-3-5.
Before 2011 every conference was decent/good. Mid majors could jump up and bite you.
Harvey Updike.
Also, around that time you had very different styles of teams. Some were I-formation smash mouth football. Some were pro-style with one back, 3 wide, some were air raid, some were passing spread, running spread, and even some were triple option. Defense were 4-3, 3-4, 3-3-5.
Before 2011 every conference was decent/good. Mid majors could jump up and bite you.
This post was edited on 4/15/21 at 7:54 pm
Posted on 4/15/21 at 7:58 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
The 1990's to the mid 2000's. You had the 3 Daves on the early Jefferson Pilot game, Keith Jackson on ABC and then the primetime SEC game on ESPN with Ron Franklin, Mike Gottfried and Adrian Karsten. As a fan of a team that usually stunk, I'll never forget the hype around South Carolina when we got GameDay in 2001 and the primetime ESPN game against Florida.
Posted on 4/15/21 at 8:01 pm to RollTide1987
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Conference Realignment. This is when it became oh so obvious that the sport was becoming more about the money. It also destroyed traditional rivalries. Traditional rivalries, at least in my opinion, is the driving force of collegiate athletics.
The change I hate the most over the past decade.
Posted on 4/15/21 at 8:05 pm to zzgobucky
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Whatever years you were in middle school through college. So for this board it'll be somewhere from 1995-2010
Are you suggesting that a league/sport doesn't have "hay days" or peaks and valleys in quality/success/etc. outside of the perception of the person thinking about it?
That's silly.
Posted on 4/15/21 at 8:13 pm to RollTide1987
Not a bad post but I could do the same kind of post from the late 60’s through the 90’s....
Posted on 4/15/21 at 8:46 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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could also simply be that as we grow older, we grow less passionate about the teams because we have seen it all at that point.
It’s this a lot more than people realize.....priorities change and you change. You don’t realize it but the sports fandom overall doesn’t change. You have.
Posted on 4/15/21 at 9:00 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Early to mid 90s. The years that the ESPN headline Saturday night crew had Ron Franklin and Adrian Karsten.
Posted on 4/15/21 at 9:02 pm to mattz1122
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Conference Realignment. This is when it became oh so obvious that the sport was becoming more about the money. It also destroyed traditional rivalries. Traditional rivalries, at least in my opinion, is the driving force of collegiate athletics.
The change I hate the most over the past decade.
Absolutely
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