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re: What is the most overated baseball stat?

Posted on 8/19/09 at 7:33 pm to
Posted by Kige Ramsey
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Posted on 8/19/09 at 7:33 pm to
My pick OBP
Posted by BayouBengals03
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Posted on 8/19/09 at 7:34 pm to
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My pick OBP

not a very good pick Kige.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
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Posted on 8/19/09 at 7:37 pm to
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Youre telling me a .250 hitter that strikes out 30 times a year is better than a .300 hitter that stikes out 100 times a year?


The most over rated offensive stat is batting average. What is their OBP?

You are also giving a more specific example. how often a hitter strikes out is useful information, more so than you realize.


Posted by Enfuego
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Posted on 8/19/09 at 7:38 pm to
pitcher wins
Posted by H-Town Tiger
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Posted on 8/19/09 at 7:39 pm to
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thats my point. k's do not make one hitter better than another all things being equal



well you are wrong. if you have 2 hitters with equal stats, except one strikes out 50 times and the other strikes out 100 times, you are better off with the guy that strikes out less.
Posted by BayouBengals03
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Posted on 8/19/09 at 7:40 pm to
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well you are wrong. if you have 2 hitters with equal stats, except one strikes out 50 times and the other strikes out 100 times, you are better off with the guy that strikes out less.

absolutely
Posted by Kind Objectivist
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Posted on 8/19/09 at 7:41 pm to
Kige , you don't know anything about baseball.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
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Posted on 8/19/09 at 7:41 pm to
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My pick OBP



quote:

not a very good pick Kige.


OBP is BY FAR the most underrated and one of, if not the most important offensive stat.
This post was edited on 8/19/09 at 7:42 pm
Posted by BayouBengals03
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Posted on 8/19/09 at 7:41 pm to
that was not very kind.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
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Posted on 8/19/09 at 7:43 pm to
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that was not very kind.


but it was objective truth
Posted by BayouBengals03
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Posted on 8/19/09 at 7:43 pm to
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OBP is BY FAR the most underrated and one of, if not he most important offensive stat.

avg/OBP/Slug and OPS are really important to me.

OBP more than average, but I still like to see how a hitter's average and OBP compare.
Posted by hendersonshands
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Posted on 8/19/09 at 7:44 pm to
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My pick OBP



Do you know what OBP stands for?
Posted by H-Town Tiger
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Posted on 8/19/09 at 7:54 pm to
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avg/OBP/Slug and OPS are really important to me.


overall, OPS may be the best stat., but OBP >>>>>>>>>>>>>BA

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I still like to see how a hitter's average and OBP compare.


yeah, but i like it when there is a huge difference. In 91, Ricky Henderson hit .268 with a .400 OBP
Posted by BayouBengals03
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Posted on 8/19/09 at 7:55 pm to
Yea me too. He was a true leadoff hitter.
Posted by rmcc316
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Posted on 8/19/09 at 8:40 pm to
wins
Posted by rockchlkjayhku11
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Posted on 8/19/09 at 8:46 pm to
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Youre telling me a .250 hitter that strikes out 30 times a year is better than a .300 hitter that stikes out 100 times a year? No


surprisingly enough, nobody has said that.

they are telling you that a .290 hitter that strikes out 30 times is better than a .300 hitter that strikes out 100 times.
Posted by Mao
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Posted on 8/19/09 at 8:52 pm to
RISP with 2 out is a bullshite stat. You've all you need to know with RBIs, BA, OBP, etc. It may reveal "clutch" in the short term, but there is no clutch with 162 games. It seems like it's an unnecessary stat that's searching for some sort of meaning.
Posted by Ninja Looter
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Posted on 8/19/09 at 9:08 pm to
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well you are wrong. if you have 2 hitters with equal stats, except one strikes out 50 times and the other strikes out 100 times, you are better off with the guy that strikes out less.



Most definitely. I don't know why anyone would say OBP. OBP and OPS are very important.
Posted by etm512
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Posted on 8/19/09 at 9:19 pm to
I think I am now dumber for reading Pilot Tiger's posts in this thread.

And to answer the question, wins.
Posted by barry
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Posted on 8/19/09 at 10:12 pm to
Its the strikeout, especially for power hitters. If you want proof the average OPS of the top 20 strikeout leaders in MLB is .844, not too shabby.
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