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Posted on 7/13/17 at 10:03 am to hsfolk
quote:I'm not sure if you're kidding, but there actually are people who are alive who actually believe this. It's that opinion of itself I was talking about.
AAC would be even better if they'd invite LaTech
Posted on 7/13/17 at 11:14 am to Sugarloaf
quote:
No they aren't. Tech is a 0, and ULM is a 0.
In the state of Louisiana, absolutely. It's LSU then everyone else. Outside the state Tech actually has some respect as a formidable smaller school. Not on the same level as Houston or Boise or Cincinnati, but on par with Marshall, Tulsa, Southern Miss, etc.
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I'm not sure if you're kidding, but there actually are people who are alive who actually believe this. It's that opinion of itself I was talking about.
It's not unrealistic on the field/court. I saw a friend share a graphic on twitter the other day where Tech is in fairly elite company when it comes to combined FB and MBB wins the past three or so years. Tech's problem is their market size and money. If the AAC had to add two schools in the West I think Tech would be on the short list. I think they would probably lose out to a UTSA and USM, but they would certainly get a call to bring something to the table. Saying they're not a lock, absolutely far from it, but saying they're not on a list of top 5-6 options would be disingenuous.
Posted on 7/13/17 at 11:17 am to JukeLeft
I had the impression that the ulm people had a grand vision and beating latech did nothing for them.
Posted on 7/13/17 at 11:30 am to AwesomeSauce
quote:So, 0.
Outside the state Tech actually has some respect as a formidable smaller school. Not on the same level as Houston or Boise or Cincinnati, but on par with Marshall, Tulsa, Southern Miss, etc.
I've lived outside Louisiana for most of my adult life. Louisiana Tech doesn't exist.
Posted on 7/13/17 at 11:42 am to Sugarloaf
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So, 0.
This is not meant as a shot at major college football fans, but if you are the type that only sees the SEC and bluebloods as being "real football" then sure. I can say that when talking to a college football fan at a bar watching a game or in general water cooler talk when people hear I grew up in North Louisiana I've been asked about Tech numerous times. Outside of 2012 I've never been asked about ULM, and the ULM question was while I was in Rogers, AR by someone who asked me if they were a good FCS team because they hadn't seen them play UCA so they weren't sure.
I grew up in the heyday of the rivalry and get not wanting to give Tech any props, but in the state of Louisiana it's:
1.LSU
2.Tech
3.ULL/Tulane
4.ULM/McNeese/SELU
5.NWST/GSU/Southern
6.Nichols
7.LC
This post was edited on 7/13/17 at 11:44 am
Posted on 7/13/17 at 11:55 am to AwesomeSauce
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Outside of 2012 I've never been asked about ULM, and the ULM question was while I was in Rogers, AR by someone who asked me if they were a good FCS team because they hadn't seen them play UCA so they weren't sure.
You could have said they beat one of the highest ranked Hog teams ever in 2012 but of course there would be an excuse since Arkie ended up sucking arse that year but still I think they were #4 when they suited up. ULM also damn near beat Aubie the next week if I am not mistaken.
And you can bet that every Bama fan knows who ULM is. There are not many teams that can hang their hat on a Bama win under Saban in T-town. That 2007 win had insult to injury cause there was a big arse sign on I-20 that read Tide Rolled with the score and damn if Bama didn't limp into the Indy Bowl where most of the team and fans had to travel through Monroe to get to Shreveport.
If ULM would have followed up with that 2012 season with a couple more solid seasons and maybe beat ULL a few times more, they would be in Tech's shoes right now.
This post was edited on 7/13/17 at 11:57 am
Posted on 7/13/17 at 11:58 am to Sugarloaf
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No they aren't. Tech is a 0, and ULM is a 0.
Take them Warhawk shades off baw. Tech has lapped ULM and it's not even open for dispute.
Posted on 7/13/17 at 12:25 pm to MWP
I honestly forgot about that win in T-town, I think a lot of that died because there was no sustained success. They beat Bama then didn't even qualify for a bowl game.
Posted on 7/13/17 at 12:35 pm to Rabbs and QStick
J, you're an idiot.
Posted on 7/13/17 at 12:44 pm to MWP
quote:lapped
Tech has lapped ULM and it's not even open for dispute.
If you're invited to the same bowl, you're on the same lap.
Posted on 7/13/17 at 1:15 pm to Sugarloaf
quote:
If you're invited to the same bowl, you're on the same lap.
Tech played TCU the year after or year before (one of the two). SO you're saying Tech, ULM, and TCU are all equal then?
Posted on 7/13/17 at 1:26 pm to Sugarloaf
quote:
If you're invited to the same bowl, you're on the same lap.
That was in 2012. It is 2017. Tech is ahead of ULM, sorry.
Posted on 7/13/17 at 1:32 pm to CelticDog
quote:there's very few in Monroe that have a grand vision of anything. Especially football related. We all know our place right now
I had the impression that the ulm people had a grand vision and beating latech did nothing for them.
Posted on 7/13/17 at 1:38 pm to MWP
Yea as a recent grad of ULM and a SA trying to say tech and ULM are on the same footing right now isn't correct. I don't think it's this massive gap that everyone thinks it is but we're definitely behind right now. Wickstrom was doing a great job of closing that gap hopefully our new AD can keep that momentum going.
Posted on 7/13/17 at 1:40 pm to Pedro
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there's very few in Monroe that have a grand vision of anything. Especially football related.
I set down a grand vision for ULM Football about 3 pages back. If only the coaches at ULM would read TD they would know what to do.
You have more talent in NE LA than probably any other area in the state and maybe the South for that matter. Shite, at least 3 or 4 teams from the area alone are in the dome every year. Neville, WM, OCS, Sterlington, OG, Bastrop, Ouachita. I could go on and on. Why can't ULM recruit those kids on a regular basis?
Posted on 7/13/17 at 1:58 pm to MWP
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Why can't ULM recruit those kids on a regular basis?
A lot of that talent is HS talent cultivated on a culture. The top talent of these schools end up at LSU or Alabama, the next level ends up at TCU, Arkansas, or Miss State. The next level goes to Tech. The final level of D1 players gets split between ULM, GSU, and the FCS schools around. The problem is that Viator shows a 3* local kid with offers from Tech, ULM, and Tulane what ULM has and shows them a FCS championship trophy. The kid goes down the road the next week and sees better facilities, super bowl rings, a wall of HoF, bowl trophies, a wall of current NFL players, and sits in Skip Holtz office overlooking the field and forgets how to get to ULM. The talent ULM gets and will continue to get will be fighting Ark St and ULL for NELA recruits.
Viator has to win with these recruits before he can make headway and start to compete with Tech for guys like Xavier Woods, Teddy Veal, Jon Belton etc. Right now, Tech has separation and the fruits of that separation that will be hard for ULM to compete with if Tech wants the kid. If Tech can maintain their current success and facility improvements, ULM will never catchup in a way that is sustainable.
2000-2009 I think ULM was a stones throw away from Tech, but Dooley, Dykes, and Holtz have created a wide separation that no one in Monroe acknowledged until Wickstrom came in and tried to keep the gap from widening too much. I may be wrong, but talking to coaches in the area and going to games at both Malone and Aillet, I can say that anyone not tied to one program or the other wouldn't know how close these programs were just 5-10 years ago.
This post was edited on 7/13/17 at 2:01 pm
Posted on 7/13/17 at 2:01 pm to Sugarloaf
It is hard to pay for a new press box when you are playing ULM...how's that corner-endzone KFC shack working?
Posted on 7/13/17 at 2:15 pm to AwesomeSauce
quote:We aren't talking about them.
TCU
In a conversation about Tech and ULM, those two are on the same lap. Anybody from Tech who thinks they're even on a higher tier than ULM--or any FBS program, for that matter--is just a typical Techster fantasizing about something that, despite all that hard work and effort, hasn't even come close to happening because of one reason: Louisiana Tech just isn't good enough.
Posted on 7/13/17 at 2:17 pm to MWP
quote:Of course, but Tech laps no one. Be real. It's Tech, not anything important.
That was in 2012. It is 2017. Tech is ahead of ULM, sorry.
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