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re: What do you think about Mike Leach to USC or Texas?
Posted on 9/30/13 at 1:01 pm to supatigah
Posted on 9/30/13 at 1:01 pm to supatigah
quote:All true. And bottom line, the guy can coach. He gets "W's" with less than elite talent.
Leach is off the charts intelligent
Very outspoken
Very impatient
And he has zero filter
But he'd be out of his element at USC, and that has nothing to do with what happens on the football field. He won't even get an interview IMO.
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Posted on 9/30/13 at 1:03 pm to L.A.
quote:
What I got out of the article was that Leach was sort of a rube, a misfit, the kind of guy who would fair poorly around rich, sophisticated L.A. types
He's had terrible interviews other places as well.
He did a nice job at TTU and should have been there for life. But I don't think he'd translate to a bigger program. Outside of 2008, they were basically a 7-5, 8-4 type of program. They'd play almost nothing but total scrubs OOC and then go 3-5, 4-4, maybe 5-3 on conference. That's fine for TTU. Gerry Dinardo once said and I agree with him, that its easy to go from 3-4 wins to 8-9. Its going from 9-10 wins to 12 that's really hard. I don't think Leech could make that jump and that's what Texas and USC demand.
Posted on 9/30/13 at 1:04 pm to L.A.
Well I'll just say after Bama fired Shula, there were legitimate points about Saban not dealing with Bama's good-old-boy network, not cooperating with the media, not wanting to be perpetually under Bear's shadow, not wanting to deal with the insanely high expectations of the Bama fanbase.
It made perfect sense at the time and it's completely laughable now. Saban and Bama are perfect for each other.
USC would be crazy not to look at him. They need a change of culture. They need someone who goes against their grain
It made perfect sense at the time and it's completely laughable now. Saban and Bama are perfect for each other.
USC would be crazy not to look at him. They need a change of culture. They need someone who goes against their grain
Posted on 9/30/13 at 1:08 pm to genro
quote:
They need a change of culture. They need someone who goes against their grain
Nah, not really, The culture of LK needs be changed, that's about it. Not everybody that has success at a lower level can do well at a bigger venue.
Posted on 9/30/13 at 1:09 pm to genro
quote:
Well I'll just say after Bama fired Shula, there were legitimate points about Saban not dealing with Bama's good-old-boy network, not cooperating with the media, not wanting to be perpetually under Bear's shadow, not wanting to deal with the insanely high expectations of the Bama fanbase.
It made perfect sense at the time and it's completely laughable now. Saban and Bama are perfect for each other.
Saban >>>>>>>>>>> Leach
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USC would be crazy not to look at him. They need a change of culture. They need someone who goes against their grain
Not really they just don't need someone as shitty as Kiffin.
Posted on 9/30/13 at 1:09 pm to genro
quote:We're not communicating here.
Well I'll just say after Bama fired Shula, there were legitimate points about Saban not dealing with Bama's good-old-boy network, not cooperating with the media, not wanting to be perpetually under Bear's shadow, not wanting to deal with the insanely high expectations of the Bama fanbase.
It made perfect sense at the time and it's completely laughable now. Saban and Bama are perfect for each other.
USC would be crazy not to look at him. They need a change of culture. They need someone who goes against their grain
Leach wouldn't fit in with USC. It's completely different than Alabama's concern with some of the legitimate concerns about Saban after Miami, all of which could be ironed out in the interview process. USC is not going to hire Leach. He won't even get an interview. For lack of a better term, he's not a "USC man." And I don't mean USC alum. He just doesn't fit the image in the most image conscious city in America. He's not the kind of man Pat Haden would hire.
Posted on 9/30/13 at 1:10 pm to L.A.
I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm saying they're wrong. To care more about image than results? It's stupid.
Fine, so it's a FACT that they won't look at him. That's stupid. That's my point.
Fine, so it's a FACT that they won't look at him. That's stupid. That's my point.
This post was edited on 9/30/13 at 1:11 pm
Posted on 9/30/13 at 1:11 pm to genro
quote:I agree with you 100%. I think Leach would have been a sucess at UCLA and I think he'd be a success at USC. The guy can flat out coach.
I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm saying they're wrong. To care more about image than results?
Posted on 9/30/13 at 1:13 pm to H-Town Tiger
quote:
He's had terrible interviews other places as well.
Not trying to be a dick and "question" you but if you have a link or any info on this I would like to read it. I am a big Leach supporter and would like to read more into this.
Posted on 9/30/13 at 1:17 pm to Cherokee Chinstrap
quote:
Not trying to be a dick and "question" you but if you have a link or any info on this I would like to read it. I am a big Leach supporter and would like to read more into this
i don't, but i remember hearing in Houston media he interviewed with Tennessee i think and it tanked.
Posted on 9/30/13 at 1:18 pm to H-Town Tiger
Why is Mike Nolan's name rarely mentioned anymore?
Posted on 9/30/13 at 1:19 pm to mrbroker
quote:
U cant b serious clark. He is one weird dude. He would flunk the interview process
What the hell are you talking about?
The guy has a law degree and had the best offense in the country. He is hilarious and a damn good coach.
Posted on 9/30/13 at 1:21 pm to genro
quote:
Why isn't he on these lists much? Would be at or near the top if I was an AD. What am I missing?
Why?
What has he done to deserve a job at USC or Texas?
Posted on 9/30/13 at 1:21 pm to Cherokee Chinstrap
I think Texas would be a better fit for him than USC. I don't think he will get a shot at either job. He's a great coach that rubs people the wrong way so that's why he will always be a coach of mid to low level program of a power 6 conference. Unless an AD takes a chance on him and goes against the boosters.
This post was edited on 9/30/13 at 1:23 pm
Posted on 9/30/13 at 1:23 pm to Sader1990
quote:Disagree. Success will trump "rubbing people the wrong way"
rubs people the wrong way so that's why he will always be a coach at a mid to low level power 6 conference.
eventually
This post was edited on 9/30/13 at 1:23 pm
Posted on 9/30/13 at 1:23 pm to genro
Jack del Rio gets USC fired up?
Posted on 9/30/13 at 1:24 pm to genro
quote:
I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm saying they're wrong. To care more about image than results? It's stupid.
it's not that they'd care more about image than winning, but fit does matter. Good coaches that didn't fit certain places have blown up before. As one example, Trent Johnson had a great resume but just didn't fit at LSU.
IMO Leech is a guy that can do well at 2nd tier BCS type teams, like TTU. Though it is worth noting, he isn't exactly tearing it up at WSU, a team that was in the top 10 a couple of times in the late 90's, early 2000's.
Posted on 9/30/13 at 1:26 pm to H-Town Tiger
quote:What does that matter? Before Leach got there, there were literally one of the worst (if not THE worst) teams in all of the FBS. They have definitely improved. They have absolutely ZERO talent. Seriously, Troy has way more talent. ULL has more talent. Southern Miss has more talent. 100% serious.
he isn't exactly tearing it up at WSU, a team that was in the top 10 a couple of times in the late 90's, early 2000's.
If you saw just how unbelievably bad they were before Leach got there, you'd know how much they've improved. shite from the 90s doesn't matter. Hell, Colorado won the National Title in the 90s
This post was edited on 9/30/13 at 1:27 pm
Posted on 9/30/13 at 1:26 pm to Dr. Shultz
quote:
What has he done to deserve a job at USC or Texas?
You can throw questions around every coach in the country. The questions becomes can he recruit, win and make the school money.
Posted on 9/30/13 at 1:27 pm to genro
quote:
Disagree. Success will trump "rubbing people the wrong way"
Yea but you need to get a shot first. He won't get a shot because of that. I think he is a great coach and would love to see him become the coach at a USC or Texas but just don't see it happening.
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